Honestly, its gotta be the MS Office suite.
Yes if you’re just writing your own simple documents libreoffice/OpenOffice will work, but if you have to do anything more complex than a single page spreadsheet, text-on-white presentations, or 3 page MLA book reports… or, even worse, have to interact with documents and spreadsheets created by basically any other person on the planet, I’ve just never had a good consistent experience with any of the free options.
Disagree. Libreoffice is pretty capable for most use cases nowadays.
Compatibility is also pretty good with Microsoft formats despite Microsoft‘s best efforts.
OpenOffice is dead.
it’s pretty capable in term of most functionalities but you can’t get the formatting, e. g. word docs, exactly one-to-one with its MS office version counterpart. So it would be difficult to share to multiplatforms users.
And Microsoft intentionally introduce bugs in its files design so that certain functionalities will be extremely difficult to replicate.
unfortunately “pretty good” is not “guaranteed”, which is often what I need for both work and school. I tried to make myself use only libre options for like a week and just about every assignment I opened was broken in some way or another so I always ended up back in Word.
I’ll still use the libreoffice options if i’m, say, already logged into my Linux install and don’t want to bother going back to Windows. But since I get Office for free thru work and school, and so does everyone else, well… I just use it.
Not sure how it is nowadays, but back in 2018 Libreoffice Calc was struggling to handle even a single sheet of data entries, performance-wise, let alone multiple sheets.
I’m not expecting it to have every feature imaginable, but I do expect it to not freeze when processing even a relatively small dataset.
Yeah I don’t think that’s an issue anymore.
As someone that despises MS Office, LibreOffice is even worse. All I wanted to do was create a simple database of contact info, donation info, and reservation scheduling for a small nonprofit. Something I could do in minutes in Access. Let me tell you the database part of LibreOffice SUCKS. You can’t even import csv’s! Best you can do is copy paste cells into fields and Hope all the formatting and data types work. And connecting to other external data sources is an incredible pain. I found MS Office on sale for $35 and threw LibreOffice in the trash where it belongs.
I hate Office365 with passion. It’s extremely unproductive and alternatives like Quip are much better.
I’m surprised to see quip here, honestly it’s never been for me (even with it’s salesforce integration). What do you like about it compared to gdocs / word?
Quip is very lightweight. It’s not clogged with 200 features I’m never going to use.
That’s why I don’t use any of the real “365” web apps, only their desktop apps which do keep the bullshit to some minimum.
If you have to interact with documents created by others it would be better to use open formats not proprietary shit designed to be not cross compatible
Unfortunately industry and academia does not view it in such a manner… those microsoft contracts are too appealing for them lol
I’ve found OnlyOffice (not to be confused with OpenOffice) is very compatible with Microsoft’s Office document format. I can open and edit docx files created by other people with no problem.
I don’t need office much but when I do, I hate that I can never find what I’m looking for in that stupid ribbon. I also don’t know any good MS Access alternative.
“you’ll get used to the ribbon, it’s just a new UI”
Nope, still fucking hate it
Eh, beamer is more than enough for most presentations. If your slideshow needs to be that flashy, you probably need more substance.
git puts track changes to shame.
You’re absolutely right about compatibility though.
If you’re using git to track document changes then you’re almost certainly in the tech industry and are quite familiar with the inner workings of your computer.
For 90% of people using computers right now, asking them to use git to do version management on their day to day work flow would be like asking me to fly a rocket ship to work.
I agree with the OP here, for what it does office is leaps and bounds ahead of any of the other software I’ve used to try to replace it and I always end up landing back on it.
There are many non-technical people in the world of mathematics and they manage to use LaTeX just fine. Overleaf offers synchronization without needing to touch Git.
Not only mathematics, pretty much everyone in the world of science/academia uses LaTeX. For git, I’ve seen some stuff, but most researchers that program a decent amount are reasonably familiar with git as well.
That’s still a far higher degree of technical competence than is possessed by the target audience for PowerPoint, Google Slides, or LibreOffice present. Also, claiming someone isn’t technical just because they’re not a computer programmer is a little odd. Most programmers I know don’t go anywhere near LaTeX because it’s so confusing and the spec is so complicated. They use powerpoint, Miro, or markdown slides when they want to present something.
This guys reply to me was literally “git isn’t too technical, mathematicians use this extremely complicated program for generating highly technical documents all the time so obviously grandma could too!”
I agree 100% with you, I tried to use LaTeX ONE time in college and nearly chucked my computer out the window, and I’m a software developer. I was using it for a math class and couldn’t get my head around any of it.
It certainly isn’t a good replacement for MSWord or PowerPoint for the VAST majority of people who don’t need to put mathematical notation into their presentations and just need words on a screen
Git diff will look pretty terrible for docx or similar files. The thing with the builtin change tracking is that it’ll actually show you what changed in the document view
The comment you’re replying to was talking about LaTeX, not .docx.
Ah, I took it so that they mentioned beamer / LaTeX as a separate thing from change tracking, which is usually more of a document editor feature than a presentation editor feature.
But like, using LaTeX as a replacement for microsoft word is NOT really useful advice for the vast majority of people who use Word. I don’t need ANY of the special things LaTeX does, and I’ve been using Word all my life to do the basic stuff I need it for.
I get where people here are coming from, but the whole point of this thread is talking about proprietary software which is better for the average use case than open source stuff, and I think the point still stands that MSOffice products absolutely fit that bill. Yes, open source or free alternatives exist, but they aren’t nearly as good, feature-full, and easy to learn and use as the open source alternatives.
The fact that we’re here arguing whether LaTeX is a viable alternative to Word and Power Point kinda proves that MSOffice is the best for this IMO, because LaTeX isn’t exactly easy to pick up and use and is really intended for industries that need extremely complex formatting on their presentations and papers.
No one here is talking about using LaTeX instead of Word. They are talking about making presentations, not documents.
And yeah, I can see how making presentations in LaTeX is faster and easier (for some people) because PowerPoint is so incredibly annoying and slow to use. And the ability to use version tracking is very nice.
Imo using a text based tool for presentations is really counterproductive because presentations should use as little text as possible.
For me currently, libreoffice impress is actually the best option because it has all the necessary features (wysiwyg style editing, svg support, latex equations, some animations).
Steam. The support they have for multiplatform almost feels open source and they have been invaluable for the adoption of desktop Linux
The most recent one is, of course, Sync for Lemmy. It may just be muscle memory at this point, but I find the experience a step improvement in browsing.
On my home server front, I would mention Plex despite Jellyfin’s massive improvements over the past 2 years. Plexamp is just a magical piece of software.
For the most part, though, I think I’d reverse the question. Most of the time, I prefer OSS.
Try reiverr, its a jellyfin ui made by a lemmy user that integrates with the arr suite and tvmd so you can easily find new things to watch https://github.com/aleksilassila/reiverr
It definitely looks promising, but I still don’t think Jellyfin and Reiverr are quite ready to compete with Plex yet.
I agree about Plex. But I don’t get the love for Sync.
It feels kind of clunky and it lacks some features many of the other apps have. Personally, I’m liking Thunder right now, but I’m excited for Boost to come out.
Sync has ads unless you pay, it’s not open source, and I haven’t actually found anything superior about it.
That’s funny because I switched off of plex to Jellyfin because of how bad the experience on plex was.
Same here. And especially for watch parties Jellyfin has been great.
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Yep! Just need faster internet so I can share with more friends 😭
I’m glad I used Infinity for Reddit, which was always FOSS, and there is now a new fork Eternity for Lemmy.
I use Navidrome over Jellyfin for music hosting. The open source music clients for the subsonic API are a little more varied.
If you’re happy using closed apps, Symfonium supports both Jellyfin and Subsonic.
So i bought plex pass a while ago and i keep hearing about plexamp, I dont really understand why is it considered so good, could you elaborate on why you like it? Does it do more than play music from my home server?
I love Jellyfin and mainly use it and recommend it where possible these days, but man, the download situation sucks. Hate having to download files without compressing them, especially since I keep my media lossless. Its the main reason I’ve still kept Plex running on my server. Also sometimes the clients can be wonky, I’ve found Jellyfin works best for me with Kodi as the player for most things, which is interesting. But overall I do like Jellyfin and support it and its mission, hopefully gets better in these aspects in time.
I just switched from Plex to Jellyfin. Aside from a few minor features like intro skipping, I don’t miss it.
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Hah, with no attempt to explain because it’s very self explanatory.
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Libre calc is a great replacement imo. It has support for excel vba macros, but you can also make macros in Python, JavaScript, and their own macro language. For the most part it’s cross compatible with excel, but doesn’t support their xlsm file type as far as I know.
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It’s fine if you never leave Calc. If you’re trying to use Calc at home and Excel at work, it’s absolutely awful. Key bindings aren’t the same. Basic things like auto completing formulas is different. It’s terrible to flip between the two.
That’s what I came here to post. People always think that other software are actual options. If you are using drools rules then other software can’t even follow the xlsx standard properly enough to even allow drools to compile correctly. It sucks because I’d rather not have to get licenses for my whole team to use excel when there’s plenty of free options and we don’t even use it that much, but it’s just so far into another league it isn’t even close.
Weren’t the MSFT X standards intentionally poorly defined with the goal of smothering OpenDocument in the crib?
I mean, maybe, but that doesn’t really change anything. Excel is better for a lot of use cases and whether that’s due to terrible antitrust violations or not doesn’t really change the fact of the matter. I honestly would love to use Libre or Open office, and it’s literally the first thing I tried, it just doesn’t work for most of the things I would need it for.
What are drools rules? All the pages I’m reading are very high level “bueiness rules” what does that even mean?
oh sorry, forgot I wasn’t on a programming community. It’s a software for writing rules for business operation. Not relevant to the majority of people on the planet.
There are no good open source CAD systems at all.
For electrical engineering there is KiCad, which is pretty good overall. Only reason I’m still using proprietary software is because I’d have to recreate my libraries and it will be a huge pita.
For mechanical design there is FreeCad, which is usable for simple geometries, but if you come from a proprietary CAD software you may find it lacking.
I got into the 3D printing hobby a few months ago and FreeCAD is pretty much useless. I can be more productive by writing JavaScript code with Three.js library, lol.
I’ve made some great and somewhat complex designs using freecad, it’s certainly capable.
I eventually switched to fusion 360 because of the UI and it’s more easy to find help. And less need to find help
Yep, that’s my experience as well. It works, but man… You’re just wasting time fighting the app instead of designing your models.
For that you can also use Blender
Not really. Blender is NOT a CAD. It doesn’t ensure that your bodies are solid, it doesn’t provide any analysis tools, it doesn’t support working with blueprints/sketches, it’s not parametric, etc. Basically, it doesn’t do anything CAD at all.
Yeah, it’s a great tool for the job. Not as good as Zbrush, but I used it for print prep several times and it just has all the tools you might need.
I wonder, what makes a good CAD system?
I had this idea for a while to build a Frankenstein monster of a 3D software that uses real time graphics and has a multi step build process covering CAD, wireframe manipulation and voxel workflows. If I ever actually make it, your concerns will be heard despite being probably not the best softwsre to do your work in :)
CAD system must be reliable. It is simply unacceptable to have math issues which cause unpredictable geometries.
CAD system should have a good UI. This is a big issue for open source software in general as UI and UX is usually an afterthought.
CAD system should be fast and use hardware acceleration. Running single threaded python scripts on CPU to do complex computations kills the productivity. Designing real life objects is already a mentally taxing task, the whole purpose of CAD is to remove the computational bottleneck of a human.
CAD should be object aware. If I draw two gears and put them next to each other, I should be able to rotate one and see the other moving accordingly.
This is a bare minimum, I’m not even talking about computational modelling, stress testing, etc.
Proper math and an intuitive interface, the opensource alternatives really struggle with some basic functions
Modern day, proper parametric modeling with robust and intuitive constraints.
That is a question too hard to answer in a comment and one that depends on the use case of the software. Few users need the power and features of CATIA or NX, but those who need it can’t accept anything lesser. SolidWorks is a good spot in terms of flexibility and features if it could be easier for the average person to use. You need proper accurate parametric modeling (e.g. a NURBS kernel) for solid models and surfacing. Hearing things like wireframe and voxel indicates it isn’t suitable to me.
I got a maker sub to solidworks. I couldn’t keep up with 360’s oddities and feature changes.
Maybe some day.
Once you get the basics down it’s pretty much all transferable. There are some minor workflow changes, but the functionality isn’t all too different.
Ok, good to know!
I still donate to Inkscape each month (please do the same at https://inkscape.org/support-us/donate/), but it became unusable for me on macOS, unfortunately. I now use Serif Affinity.
Inkscape is fantastic on Linux. I’d highly recommend it!
Inkscape works good on Windows too, but its UI… It’s like it was made by monkeys for dinosaurs. I’m not sure that Inkscape devs ever tried to use it themselves.
The UI isn’t the best, but is it really that bad? I’ve used some adobe software as well, and I don’t really find Inkscape’s UI that hard to use in comparison. Whether it’s pretty is another question.
Pretty bad in my opinion. Especially when you’re working on more than one document at a time.
I agree that it’s bad for editing anything more than a page, didn’t think of that as I only really use it to make figures, which I think it’s pretty great for.
Idk about you but I thought this was the case as well, since the last time I used Inkscape was probably like 6 years ago, and at the time, the UI was super dated looking (don’t get me wrong, it was still functional).
The different is night and day now, I honestly couldn’t tell that it was the same software. UI looks super clean and modern.
I used fresh Inkscape installation to fix some SVG files last month. Its UI is still cancer from 1990-s.
gf
Version 1.3 has introduced a shape builder tool, always nice to have that. Overall, it seems that is has improved quite a bit in the last few years, so that’s good to see
They revamped the entire interface, it’s based on GTK3 and feels honestly very modern. I don’t use it every day so take my feedback with a grain of salt
What issues have you run into on macOS? I use inkscape on my quite new mac very often, and don’t have any issues. The command line tools for inkscape are also pretty good I think, and work without any issues (I get some
critical warning’s every now and then though, but nothing has affected output yet).Inkscape is my go-to for creating decals for 3D assets.
MacOS instead of some Linux distro. Mostly because of the hardware that comes with it, making a neat integrated product.
I agree, love the intervonnectivity with iOS, especially AirDrop. And it’s still more comfortable to use than Windows IMO (no forced updates that slow down the shutting down process!).
Youtube, it just has way more content than any libre platform
There why we use ReVanced YouTube and YouTube ad block extensions.
ReVanced? I used to use Vanced, but I guess it was shut down. I’ve been looking for an alternative (but clearly not very hard).
ReVanced is pretty much exactly same thing as Vanced, except it works still and is kept updated.
ReVanced is a godsend. Just please find it on GitHub, not on google where the first five links are scams. https://github.com/ReVanced The process of getting ReVanced is a little bit more complicated that Vanced.
- download ReVanced Manager from GitHub
- go to Patcher > select application > YouTube
- you will see recommended version
- find that exact version on ApkMirror
- download it, it have to be the APK version, not the SplitAPK one.
- go to ReVanced Manager > patcher > select app > from storage > select your APK from ApkMirror
- select patches you want (I highly recommend reading what they do and deciding if you want it)
- click patch and wait for it to patch. On my phone, I have to leave the phone on with the ReVanced manager open, otherwise the patching process resets. It may take few minutes.
- install the app and open it, go to settings, some patches have to be configured/turned on.
- if you want to login with google, you have to install Vanced MicroG (If you used Vanced, you should have it already installed)
Discord over Matrix. The range of features plus the style of the client. I like soundboard and emotes. its easy to setup a server and invite people.
I find a lot of admins forget or neglect bridges which can be frustrating
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You cannot setup servers on Discord.
While that is true, that’s also not what people mean when they say ‘servers’ in this context. No of course they’re not actual servers, but that’s what they’re called and I don’t think anyone is under the impression they’re actually servers
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Internally they are called guilds, but “publicly” they’re called servers. When you interact with the API you use
guilds, but the Discord client itself doesn’t use that term - it only uses “Server” as far as I can see.Server sounds better. Guilds sound dumb.
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Photoshop, Fences, Plex, Steam, Unraid. I just highly prefer them to any alternatives I have tried. And believe me, I have tried every alternative to Photoshop and Fences that I could find. They just don’t do it. And because of those two in particular, I have to add Windows to the list.
Oh, and I guess Sync for Lemmy. The only reason I even know what Lemmy is, is the fact that the Sync for Reddit app stopped working and basically said, “Yeah, move to Lemmy, idiot.”
It’s just plain better than any other alternative. Better UI, better UX, better features, better customization, support for Monet… I could go on all day.
Jetbrains suite
Though IntelliJ and Pycharm are both open source. But if you use the rest of the suite then yeah
Is the ultimate version open source too?
No.
Can’t imagine working without PyCharm Pro. Some may say I’m a shitty dev, but it just makes thing so much easier for a lone developer.
What’s bad about using the tool that is the most productive for you?
Sync for Lemmy. 🤷
Youtube, newpipe doesnt feels good to me No playlist No comment replies
So no🙁newpipe definitely has playlists
I’m talking about playlist made by youtube channels
if you know the url of the playlist you can bookmark it. you can also search for playlists.
Then I guess you need to go to YouTube website, go to the channel, look for what playlists they have, then go on NewPipe and look for it.
See how much of an inconvenience it is compared to just being able to pull up all channel playlists in the app?
Sure, you can type “(channel name) playlist” in the search bar, but then all those playlists are all mixed in with regular video results as well. Noticed that not all of the playlists shows up doing that too.
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I use revanced can i count it as open source?
Not really. It’s a reverse-engineered and hacked YouTube app.
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No playlist? Wdym? There’s a fork called PipePipe which has comment replies.
Try youtube revanced
Affinity is the best non Adobe image editing suite. The Foss stuff just doesn’t compare, imo. Even if feature parity, the UI of Foss image editing softwares is hotshit.
FL studio is beating out LMMS. However, I pirate FL, so it’s still free to me.
I’ve been using https://photopea.com and it does 99% of everything I would’ve done in Photoshop, in your browser. The only thing I’ve found that’s not up to par with Adobe is the content aware fill… it technically works, but it’s just not very good at it. And it of course doesn’t have any AI assisted features. It’s also free and ad supported, or you can pay $5/month to remove ads.
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Absolutely, Affinity Photo is really good. Publisher is okay (buggy and slow, though, at least in 1.2 it was, haven’t tried 2.0), but Designer is miles behind Inkscape in my experience. It has just so little functionality. I’m not exactly a heavy vector user so I could be wrong too.
The only real problem with affinity is lack of Linux support. Otherwise I love it.
I’ve tried with open source DAWs but audio software is still decades behind in the open source world. I’m on Reaper and Ableton but I would love to ditch them. Toontrack products on linux is a pipe dream too. I’ve had nothing but issues over the years so still need to dual boot.
