Original link

… Waukesha County Sheriff Eric Severson called the crash “horrific” but “preventable.”

“The fact that two children lost their lives this morning as the result of really bad decision-making is very saddening to all of us,” he said. …

… The preliminary information shows that the sheriff’s deputies involved did not violate any laws and “did their job right,” he said. …

  • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    49
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    11 months ago

    Car chases are bad. Not because people with warrants should go free, but because it puts me needlessly at risk.

    We spend a ridiculous amount of money on our police. You’re telling me that they can’t invest in a GPS tracker to stick to cars at the start of a traffic stop, or a drone to follow someone silently until they stop on their own? It’s just about 2024. Surely the Dukes of Hazard style chase is outdated.

    • dylan12210@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      arrow-down
      30
      ·
      11 months ago

      The driver knew he had 4 kids in the car. The driver is fully at fault for driving recklessly whilst trying to flee a scene purely for his own benefit.

      • Zorque@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        23
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        11 months ago

        “Criminals are fully at fault when police randomly shoot at them and hit civilians behind them”

        Is that the same kind of logic you’d have?

        • TheDoozer@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          19
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          11 months ago

          After reading a lot of people’s take on the shootout where the UPS driver hostage got killed (likely by police, as the video doesn’t show if anybody even fired from the UPS truck). So many people excused the police and blamed the criminals 100%, even though anybody whose favorite appetizer isn’t boot polish could tell you firing into rush hour traffic is incredibly irresponsible.

          All that to say, I wouldn’t put it past them.

        • zeppo@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          8
          ·
          11 months ago

          If it was say, a bank robber shooting at police, yeah. Yes, I’d blame him too. If the police shot unprovoked, no. Of course the police should handle situations like this better - put a tag on the car, call a helicopter, whatever - but at least part of the blame lies with this moron driving around with a felony warrant, no license plate, 4 kids in the car, then trying to run from the cops. For the warrant he already had, he will go to prison for a few years, so I could see why he’d be reluctant to turn himself in. But this sort of stupid shit isn’t going to help.

      • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        Sure, if we’re going to live in a simple universe where only one person is responsible when something bad happens. But that seem limiting to me. It means we can’t find creative solutions to problems, since all the solutions devolve into “bad people need to do less bad stuff.”

      • 520@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        11 months ago

        No one is saying the driver isn’t at fault. But car chases can make suspect drivers panic, and panic makes bad drivers out of all of us.

        Better for them to realise that escape is futile even if they do dodge that one police car, and just surrender at that point.

        • zeppo@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          7
          ·
          11 months ago

          Better for the driver to figure that out before he decides to take off at high speed with 4 kids in the car.

          • 520@kbin.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            11 months ago

            Exactly. When the dude’s been stickied with a GPS receiver, dude should know the game is up and he won’t have time to take it off before cops are on his ass.

            But that requires building a reputation and that requires building some solid AF procedures that cannot be dealt with quickly by an escaping driver.