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Kamala Harris’ call for ‘reproductive freedom’ means restoring Roe

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Kamala Harris’ call for ‘reproductive freedom’ means restoring Roe

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  • Neon 🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦🇪🇺🏳️‍⚧️🇹🇼🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈@lemmy.world
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    you fucking morons

    You don’t need to restore Roe.

    You need an actual law enshrining it as a right.

    I’m not a judge, but I can definitely see why Roe was overturned. So don’t play stupid games, don’t rely on a Court to interpret a certain Law a certain way, just enshrine it in law. Black ink on white paper.

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      Oh of course, we’ll just go ahead and do that tomorrow! Sheesh, what were we thinking? Thank you so much for your enlightening remarks. It was so obvious this entire time!

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    Rather just restore, improve. It was said Roe is incomplete and should be revisited for better and clearer coverage.

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    Good for Kamala.

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      Good for America.

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    Don’t restore it, make a better law and make it a human right.

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    How would “restoring” work? Is that legislation, or modifying the supreme court, etc?

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      Basically legislation. Dobbs just said there wasn’t a constitutional right, but that doesn’t mean there can’t be a federal law that makes that a right. A federal law could effectively restore this right (although it wouldn’t make it a constitutional right, which would be harder to take away).

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    So why hasn’t Biden?

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      Kind of tough when Republicans are in charge of the house of representatives.

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        No I mean the title implies as though she can restore roe. If she can do it why can’t Biden? Answer is either Biden doesn’t want to or he can’t and it will be the same for Kamala

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          Neither of them can executive action it into being but if Harris wins in November there’s a non-zero chance for downballot wins that give Democrats the house and allow for legislation protecting reproductive rights.

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        Last I checked, the house of representatives doesn’t keep him from speaking out and pushing the issue.

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          I know you’re a troll, but just in case someone well meaning stumbles across this, Biden has called for this so many times.

          https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/01/22/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-the-51st-anniversary-of-roe-v-wade/

          https://apnews.com/article/biden-speech-transcript-campaign-withdrawal-432dc25a5af4ddebf75d73bfcc0fa72a

          https://www.whitehouse.gov/state-of-the-union-2024/

          https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-biden-delivers-remarks-on-abortion-rights-during-campaign-event-in-tampa-fl

          https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-06-27/trump-biden-abortion-presidential-debate

          This took about three minutes to find, all from 2024.

          He is also literally speaking on it this very moment, as I type this, in a speech marking the anniversary of the civil rights movement.

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            I never made any claim that he wasn’t pushing the issues, but cool. I was merely rebutting the reply above mine.

            Maybe don’t defend someone implying that he’s not pushing the issue next time.

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              So why hasn’t Biden?

              .

              Last I checked, the house of representatives doesn’t keep him from speaking out and pushing the issue.

              This you?

              I never made any claim that he wasn’t pushing the issues

              This too?

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                Actually NO! That “So why hasn’t Biden” IS NOT ME…

                For fucks sake. Can you people get a grip? Read the damn user names.

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                  And the second and third quotes, that were you?

                  Take the goddamn L, man. You made a statement in ignorance, you were wrong, and you were given evidence showing you were wrong. Accept it, learn from your mistake, and be better in the future.

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              never made any claim that he wasn’t pushing the issues,

              So why hasn’t Biden?

              lol

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                To be fair, that was a different person.

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                That wasn’t me. The person below that said that Biden wasn’t pushing the issues because of the house of representatives; and I simply said that’s not stopping him…

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                  No.

                  I said Biden hasn’t restored Roe because of the house of representatives.

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              Last I checked, being either disingenuous or a moron doesn’t prevent you from using Google to look up whether or not Biden failire in calling for the restoration of roe you’re implying is true.

              I mean It’s not like I’m claiming you’re a disingenuousmoron who can’t use Google, right?

              Funny how that works

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              My comment was about restoring Roe and you said there’s nothing stopping him from speaking out about it. Which he is doing. So I’m not really sure what you were rebutting.

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                I was rebutting the reply saying that The House of Representatives was stopping him from speaking about it…holy crap can you guys not follow a comment thread correctly or something? I’m literally saying the same thing you are, but because some numb-nuts didn’t check the names in the threads and called me a troll I get dogpiled?

                You people are what’s wrong with Lemmy.

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                  If everyone misunderstood you then maybe the problem isn’t with them.

                  If that is what you were trying to say you expressed yourself poorly. It’s possible to clarify your position without ranting at other people for your mistake.

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                  You might want to try following the thread a little better if that’s what you think is happening here.

                  I’m the person you originally responded to. I said Biden hasn’t restored Roe because of the house. I though it would be clear from context since he is speaking about it.

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                  Don’t worry too much about it. You’re being dogpiled because that’s what lemmy’s centrists do when they encounter someone who isn’t cheering loudly enough for Biden.

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              Alright, then you strongly implied Biden doesn’t speak out about that. There’s been many people on abortion related threads who falsely say or imply that, and I don’t know any other way someone could reasonably read your comment. It’s still there to place an edit afterwards if you’d like to clarify what you meant exactly.

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                I didn’t imply anything, the guy I replied to did! And here you are all jumping my ass about it. I don’t need to edit shit; you need to stop jumping to conclusions.

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                  🙄

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          In March:

          Tonight, President Biden will again call on Congress to restore the protections of Roe v. Wade in federal law so women in every state have the freedom to make deeply personal health care decisions. And the Biden-Harris Administration will continue to take executive action to protect access to reproductive health care, including through ongoing implementation of the President’s three Executive Orders and a Presidential Memorandum issued since the Court overturned Roe v. Wade. To date, the Administration has taken action to:

          • Protect access to abortion, including FDA-approved medication abortion;
          • Defend access to emergency medical care;
          • Support the ability to travel for reproductive health care;
          • Strengthen access to high-quality, affordable contraception;
          • Safeguard the privacy of patients and health care providers; and
          • Ensure access to accurate information and legal resources.

          https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/03/07/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-continues-the-fight-for-reproductive-freedom/

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      biden’s not running LOL

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    Another mythical carrot to lure voters to the polls, again. I cant imagine people falling for this lie, again.

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      “I don’t believe Kamala actually wants to restore Roe v Wade, so I’m going to support the party that took it away in the first place!”

      Makes sense to me!

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        Point to where I said I would vote for the orange rapist?

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          Misread that as “papist” and was very confused for a second. BRB… need more caffeine.

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            Papists dont want him either

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      Removed by mod

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        Removed by mod

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          Removed, see the new civility guidelines in the sidebar.

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            deleted by creator

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            Fair enough, my bad. 👍

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          They’ve only been trying to play that bullshit card for 50 years.

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          No idea what I said or how it broke rules now that the comment is gone lol

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            Your modlog is here: ;)

            https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&userId=1776401

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              Sweet thanks

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      oh, are we using “number of lies told” as a metric to judge? ok, here

      https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html

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        Don’t feed the troll.

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          Not much for trolls to eat from that link though, bro is murdered

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        Deflecting and burying your head in the sand doesn’t get rid of the fact that Democrats have promised time and again to protect rights when in reality they’ve weaponized them so they can raise campaign money.

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          Nobody deflects quite like a right-wing hate-fueled empathy-lacking doublethinker

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            You are closer in ideology to Republicans than any leftist is to Democrats.

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          LOL harris will have the biggest inauguration crowd ever

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            Still deflecting

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              let me help you out https://secure.actblue.com/donate/web-bfp-july-kamala-2024?refcode=lightbox_launch%3F&amount=5000

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      I mean, if the Republicans get control, they will absolutely push for a nationwide abortion ban:

      https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/03/22/fact-sheet-house-republicans-endorse-a-national-abortion-ban-with-zero-exceptions-in-latest-budget/

      The elimination of birth control:

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-republicans-block-bill-protect-americans-access-contraception-rcna155448

      And no-fault divorce (read as “woman initiated divorce”):

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/25/republicans-no-fault-divorce

      Some have even openly discussed removing womens right to vote:

      https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/09/21/politics/john-gibbs-womens-suffrage-19th-amendment-kfile

      Now, regardless of whether or not the Democratic party would actually PROTECT these things or not is irrelevant. They definitely would not express interest in restrictions the way the Republicans do.

      This is why it’s important to vote an all blue ticket. The alternative is literal Christofascism.

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        Still not voting a blue ticket, theyve had 50 years to fix this shit and ignored women’s rights in order to raise money and stay in power. Theyve held women’s reproductive rights hostage and demand we bail them out everytime an election comes around. They have proven they can’t be trusted

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          Voting against a blue ticket is counter to what you want though, you will actively make things worse by not ensuring Democrats win.

          Even if your theory is correct, the worst case scenario is Democrats maintaining the status quo, a Republican win is Christofascism.

          So which do you want? There is no 3rd path available.

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            He knows. These people are looking for any excuse to watch America fall. If that means urging others not to vote in order to see Trump ruin America- so be it.

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            Democrats have nothing I want, when they actively participate in the deaths of people around the world while committing social murder over here, they are not deserving of support. Maintaining the status quo is not good enough anymore because the status quo keeps getting progressively worse. Theyve gone from saying Dan Quayle isn’t electable because he misspelled potato to turning a blind eye to a genocide in only 30 years. And they continue to evoke the marginalized as a human shield to protect THEIR interests and privilege.

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              When the Republican opposition actively advocates for all that, only worse, you very much do have a choice.

              I explain it like this… Israel’s policies are clearly war crimes and they have been war crimes since they first blockaded Gaza and illegally invaded Lebanon back in the 90s.

              Trump wants to take the worst of those policies and implement them here.

              https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-mexico-military-cartels-war-on-drugs-1234705804/

              https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-does-not-rule-out-building-detention-camps-mass-deportations-2024-04-30/

              So enabling a Trump victory, by not supporting the Democrats, you’re endorsing those policies here at home.

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                Democrats constantly rewarding their politicians for bad behavior is what is enabling Trump type policies. Democrats constantly rewarding their politicians for bad behavior is what is enabling the Overton window to keep shifting further to the right. Democrats are their own worst enemy, they help enable the things that they claim to hate. Thereby becoming the things they hate

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                  Fucking hilarious.

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