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  • Wanderer@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    Wow good come back. You really showed me. No need to make make a good argument just quote a meme.

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      4 months ago

      The DAILY DOUBLE! Woo.

      Real talk. The effects of toxic masculinity are tangled up everywhere, in everything, crossing the blood-brain barrier like micro plastics. If you honestly think it don’t exist, it’s big sign to me that you are wrapped up in it to drowning. People shut down empathy as a trauma response, or because they’re trying to replicate behaviors of a perceived ‘in-group’ (this would be the patriarchy) to gain acceptance. Either way it’s got you. We’re talking a nationwide ban on healthcare based on gender for half the country, and you don’t see it? You don’t think having healthcare is pretty fucking foundational? Is it 1 in 3 women who live under a ban in America now? Having your leaders celebrated for sexual violence not cast down ain’t a sign to you? 'Grab ‘em by the pussy’ is running neck and neck for one of the most powerful executive positions in the world. We’re criminalizing men who wear feminine attire, policing who is woman enough to piss where. The right just fell over itself to mock a kid who was proud to tears of his father. God forbid a man express joy. I keep getting texts from friends floored over the photo of Walz getting bunny eared by his smiling kids. There’s a big reason why seeing them so completely unafraid to tease their father in public is resonating with people.

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        4 months ago

        You have a weird style of discission because you largely seem to be arguing against yourself. None of these points are mine.

        If you are going through life and you perceive every man all the time is treating you badly and you act like it. Then you really need to change something you got some big issues.

        We’re talking a nationwide ban on healthcare based on gender for half the country, and you don’t see it?

        No not really

        You don’t think having healthcare is pretty fucking foundational?

        Yes I do.

        Is it 1 in 3 women who live under a ban in America now?

        I don’t know

        Having your leaders celebrated for sexual violence not cast down ain’t a sign to you? 'Grab ‘em by the pussy’ is running neck and neck for one of the most powerful executive positions in the world.

        Okay? A sign of what exactly. You saying only men vote for Trump? Maybe it’s more of a religious thing? These points don’t concern me and largely I don’t care. There are plenty of issues in the world. You want to talk about it from a female only perspective then Islam and Africa are treating women a lot worse and with the population crisis in the world, helping them seems like a more pressing matter. But again this is a change of topic.

        We’re criminalizing men who wear feminine attire, policing who is woman enough to piss where. The right just fell over itself to mock a kid who was proud to tears of his father. God forbid a man express joy. I keep getting texts from friends floored over the photo of Walz getting bunny eared by his smiling kids. There’s a big reason why seeing them so completely unafraid to tease their father in public is resonating with people.

        Um men haven’t been able to piss a lot of places. If you talking about in women’s spaces then that’s been going on for ages but if you want to free up peeing on trees I’ll 100% get behind that. I really don’t know what point you are making but it certainly isn’t about anything I said.

        I’m really not sure you even read the point I was making. So I’m not sure what we are discussing actually.

        • revelrous@sopuli.xyz
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          4 months ago

          Examples of how toxic masculinity and the patriarchy affects life presented in speech rather than a bullet point list. These terms are describing social structures and expectations. Not about hating individual men. The examples all are absolutely negative products of hegemonic masculinity. Look into sociological/gender studies/anthropology resources on the subject. I don’t have the bandwidth to try and give you a primer on these schools of study, but they readily exist.