it is visible from the api for example and if i remeber correctly from other fediverse projects.
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I didn’t realise karma was even a thing here
IIRC it’s an intentional decision
It’s not visible here because it leads to people hive minding and being afraid to get down voted for saying the Wrong Opinion™️
It was taken out of the API about a year ago if I recall correctly.
It’s a good thing because people tried to use it for moderation decisions like Reddit, but it’s even more of a useless riggable metric on Lemmy.
So the community decided we’re better off without it.
Agreed. A karma total is a negative part of Reddit, and caused people to seek bigger number even harder than they already do.
Nobody reads the community rules or pinned posts :(
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I think this stands. This isn’t asking for support or usage but the philosophy of not making karma visible. This community may not be all about lemmy but I’d argue it fits
why do we need the karma?
I don’t think we do personally. I don’t love the gamification of social media and disagree with karma as a system of trust. I think visible karma is detrimental and has made upvoting more “I like this post and this person” rather than “I think more people should see this”
that’s how karma ends up getting used no matter what you do; as exemplified by reddit and despite all efforts taken to prevent it by its professional staff of developers.
lemmy is run by volunteers who mostly have day jobs & other life hurdles and if people who are paid to dedicate their entire time were & are not able to mitigate karma abuse like it is on reddit; what hope is there for lemmy to succeed where they failed?
Completely agree
fwiw i think that karma could be useful in the future; but lemmy lacks the resources to implement it w/o it getting abused.
so i think it makes sense to wait for the those with the finances to pay for the development teams to figure it out and, once they do, we can copy/paste their idea(s) into implementing something like this that is viable and maintainable for lemmy.
It would have to be something like a per-community karma score to ensure it can’t be used out of context and to reduce the benefits of gaming the number.
I could also see a use for per-instance karma which only counts upvotes from users on that instance.
For example if I make a mainstream post on the election at lemmy.world and all the users from Hexbear downvote it, that shouldn’t affect my rep with lemmy.world admins, but Hexbear admins would appreciate knowing their local users consider me unacceptably capitalist.
