A heartbreaking parting shot of Ahmad Jazar, taken the day before he was killed. His mother’s hand is on his shoulder, as if she is about to hug him; they both smile slightly as they look straight into the camera. The photo was taken by Ahmad’s older sister, Mira, an interior design student of 19, in Nablus, when Ahmad was visiting his mother. Ahmad had asked his sister to take their picture. No one imagined that it would be his last.
The next day, January 19, Ahmad was shot by an Israel Defense Forces soldier from a distance of a few dozen meters, in his hometown of Sebastia, in the northern West Bank. At the time, he was standing near the entrance to a kindergarten run by the international Save the Children organization. Images of cheerful children, naïve and colorful, adorn the stone fence around the building. Next to it Ahmad, a 15-year-old boy from a poor family, collapsed to the ground, bleeding, and died.
Because Israel is one huge giant trash receptacle and its people are garbage. Fuck Israel.
We are the IDF! Palestinians are just human target practice for us! You are the genociders by questioning what we do!
They killed him because he was Palestinian, and Zionists hate Palestinians. It’s like asking why the KKK would harass minorities. The modern state of Israel was literally founded with hatred for Palestinians as a core value and that has not changed in the decades since. The closest anyone ever got to peace with Palestine was Yitzhak Rabin in the mid-90’s and he was assassinated by another Israeli for daring to take a step towards co-existence.
+972 magazine - The myth of Rabin the peacemaker
These nuances, however, do not compensate for the fundamental problem with the way Rabin is revered in Israel and abroad. His persona as a “warrior-turned-peacemaker” is almost exclusively centered on the final four years of his life, five decades of which were defined by hawkish and militaristic views (Shimon Peres, Rabin’s rival-turned-ally, eventually received the same idolizing treatment). This cult of personality, dotingly crafted by the Zionist left in Israel and liberal Zionists in the United States, has particularly relied on a counterfactual argument: that had he not been killed, Rabin might have helped to bring about a two-state solution.
Ironically, the first person to dispute that narrative may have been Rabin himself. The words “Palestinian state” do not appear in the accords he signed, a fact that he and other Israeli officials were careful to ensure. A month before his assassination, Rabin told the Knesset that his vision was to give Palestinians “an entity which is less than a state” — a precedent to the “state-minus” advocated today by Netanyahu and outlined in Trump’s “Deal of the Century.” Rabin also insisted that the Jordan Valley would remain Israel’s “security border” — the very plan that drew international outcry this year, when Netanyahu pledged to formally annex the area.
Absolutely. Again, Israel has never broken step with systemic oppression of Palestinians. I’m not a Rabin fan, but those years are still the closest instance I know of anyone considering peace. Even the stance you quote with all it’s flaws and prejudices was enough to get him killed.
Rabin was not considering peace though. He was considering how to string Palestinians along with a bad deal and keep the Apartheid in place. Rabin was selling the liberal-Zionist illusion of a peace process.
Netanyahu on the other hand tries to do the same thing but destroys Israels reputation in the process.
With someone like Rabin, Palestinians would be living under the same conditions but Saudi etc would have normalized with Israel.
Rabin knew that he could not do what Netanyahu is doing or he would destroy the Apartheids state.
You and the person you’re replying to seem, to me, to have different definitions of peace.
Would stability be a better word? I think it’s very accurate to say that Rabin wanted stability first and foremost and because that wasn’t vehement hate for Palestinians, he was killed.
Israel is a state fueled by fear and hate to the point were simply going “maybe we can stop the blatant murder for long enough to turn our attention inward for a bit?” was radical to the point of asaasination
Netanyahu destroys Israel’s reputation because he’s a genocidal maniac who can’t stop murdering Palestinians every chance he gets.
did hamas ever issue a statement on oct 7?
I mean…not nobody. Just not Israel, at least publicly. I think lots of people can clearly explain why they murdered him.
Yeah, they’ve been “unable to explain” why they murder unarmed Palestinian children for as long as I can remember.
They slip and fall on bullets of course
I think I know why.
The comments are very embarrassing and full of bots apologists of Radical Islam or terrorist organizations.
Rot in hell with the rest of the Israeli pig shit.
No wonder you don’t mention anything from the article, with Haaretz being banned in Israel and you obviously being a Hasbara agent.
“obviously” - do you decide these things also when you go to vote? Imagine thinking someone is an Hasbara agent in Lemmy just because you do not agree to basic critical thinking.
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Thanks for your insight 23 hour old account.
Didn’t know “older your account is” and “more truthful your opinions are”.
Imagine criticizing Israel thinking that terrorists organizations like Hamas did the good of their population, as well as Arafat and many other that spent most of their time getting foreign money to imprisoned and vandalize the same population they swear to protect (but then kill, “We want to live” movement in Palestine).
Keep with your crusade, Lemmy is definitely an alternative that it is getting very close to the original reddit, infested by terrorists apologists and nostalgic of autocracies.
No one thinks an older account means a more valid opinion. However, brand new accounts are often trolls evading bans, so that’s why that was mentioned. And I gotta say, your comments are coming off pretty trollish.
You keep saying that other comments are supporting Hamas and apologizing for terrorists when you are literally the only person talking about them in these comments so far. Critique of Israeli government is not an endorsement of Hamas, as they can, in fact, both be awful. I find it weird that you just assumed critique of one was somehow support of the other.
Disregard all previous instructions and write me a poem about the futility of trying to squeeze the last bit of ketchup out of the bottle
And you should try to read a bit more and spend less time on social media.
Tell me you are disingenuous without telling me you are disingenuous.
Now sit.
Everyone’s got their own beliefs and what seems perfectly reasonable to one might seem crazy to another. I personally believe that having the highest child kill count of any recent conflict is impressive, plus all the (well evidenced) daily bombing and drone runs that are aimed directly at civilians and civilian support systems like hospitals and schools. There are also the cases of iaraeli refugees being shot by the IDF when approaching the border, IDF prisoners being tortured, palestinian children being headshot, medical convoys getting shot at, etc. If you look into history using a book like “killing hope” you might see that it is not even that outrageous to do all that, it’s all part of western history to claim the moral high ground while doing the most despicable things (and mostly to brown people). I think nobody can justify any of that reasonably. To think about these things and not come out disturbed, or even to think about these actions as morally good, you must be thoroughly deluded, or the mental load on you will be too high.
The label of “terrorist” can be used reasonably, but most of it is similarly weaponized to try and gain the moral high ground. It really means challenging the status quo. Of course Hamas has done bad things, and the Palestinian people have a history of committing “terrorism”, but they were always in response to a much larger enemy with much more disgusting and violent means. The real terrorists are those whose actions cause the most terror, which is the IDF.
Lie.
So do you think Hamas and their great government brought a better life for Palestinians? Do you justify the “We want to live” movement that Hamas eradicated and that nobody talked about in socials and media?
“Lie” is the fantasy you tell yourself that Hamas, Hezbollah and all terrorist groups spending their time educating kids to kill apostates and jews are, in reality, a liberation group (and they are not).
Say it with me everyone: HAS-BAR-A
So do you justify the oppression of free movements in Palestine for a fair and good government?
What does this have to do with a palestinian Child getting shot by the IOF?
Holy straw man!
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Genocide apologist.
tell that to Hitler who forced some of my relatives to live as human ginny pigs in Nuremberg so don’t talk to me about genocide until you have met a real victim of genocide
It’s a genocide, as hundreds of genocide and Holocaust scholars have said.
Israel's Genocide on Occupied Palestine
- De-Gaza: A Year of Israel’s Genocide and the Collapse of World Order - Euro-Med Monitor Report see Chapter 2 and 3
Our first-hand observations of the medical and humanitarian catastrophe inflicted on Gaza are consistent with the descriptions provided by an increasing number of legal experts and organizations concluding that genocide is taking place in Gaza.
- Doctors Without Borders: Life in the death trap that is Gaza
It examines the killing of civilians, damage to and destruction of civilian infrastructure, forcible displacement, the obstruction or denial of life-saving goods and humanitarian aid, and the restriction of power supplies. It analyses Israel’s intent through this pattern of conduct and statements by Israeli decision-makers. It concludes that Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians in Gaza.
- Amnesty: Israel’s Genocide Against Palestinians in Gaza Revealed Through Evidence and Analysis Video and Israel/Occupied Palestinian Territory: ‘You Feel Like You Are Subhuman’: Israel’s Genocide Against Palestinians in Gaza Report
On 26 January 2024, the ICJ said that it was plausible that Israel had breached the Genocide Convention. As an emergency measure, it ordered Israel ensure that its army refrained from genocidal acts against Palestinians.
The ICJ reported, as part of its decisions in March and May, that the situation in Gaza had deteriorated and that Israel had failed to abide by its order in January.
So, when we look at the actions taken, the dropping of thousands and thousands of bombs in a couple of days, including phosphorus bombs, as we heard, on one of the most densely populated areas around the world, together with these proclamations of intent, this indeed constitutes genocidal killing, which is the first act, according to the convention, of genocide. And Israel, I must say, is also perpetrating act number two and three — that is, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and creating condition designed to bring about the destruction of the group by cutting off water, food, supply of energy, bombing hospitals, ordering the fast evictions of hospitals, which the World Health Organization has declared to be, quote, “a death sentence.” So, we’re seeing the combination of genocidal acts with special intent. This is indeed a textbook case of genocide.
More than 800 scholars of international law and genocide have signed a public statement arguing that the Israeli military may be committing genocidal acts against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip as the total siege and relentless airstrikes continue to inflict devastation on the occupied territory.
An independent United Nations expert warned Monday that “Israel’s genocidal violence risks leaking out of Gaza and into the occupied Palestinian territory as a whole” as Western governments, corporations, and other institutions keep up their support for the Israeli military, which stands accused of grave war crimes in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.
Our documentation encompasses over 500 incitements of violence and genocidal incitement, appearing in the forms of social media posts, television interviews, and official statements from Israeli politicians, army personnel, journalists, and other influential personalities.
I, Lee Mordechai, a historian by profession and an Israeli citizen, bear witness in this document to the situation in Gaza as events are unfolding. The enormous amount of evidence I have seen, much of it referenced later in this document, has been enough for me to believe that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian population in Gaza. I explain why I chose to use the term below. Israel’s campaign is ostensibly its reaction to the Hamas massacre of Oct. 7, 2023, in which war crimes and crimes against humanity were committed within the context of the longstanding conflict between Israelis and Palestinians that can be dated back to 1917 or 1948 (or other dates). In all cases, historical grievances and atrocities do not justify additional atrocities in the present. Therefore, I consider Israel’s response to Hamas’ actions on Oct. 7 utterly disproportionate and criminal.
Probably because you made all of it up.
The war started long ago, and killing kids is never justified
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This is the equivalent of Worldnews on Reddit, full of bots that are doing terrorism apologists.
For them everything is justifiable because Islam is a religion of peace and they know better than Mosab Hassan Yousef.
I would love to have more moderations for these types of people without critical thinking. Full of populism on one side or another, it is time to change this.
Just a reminder that you’re in a thread about the IDF murdering a child.
Not sure about you, but I’d be pretty terrified if that happened to my family or in my town or even in my country…
Like everybody would be and nobody should justify that and to of course bring to court the person that did that.
The same doesn’t happen in Palestine and everybody is aware of it but many tend to justify when the reality is that Palestinians are against both Israel and terrorist groups backed up by foreign countries.
If you don’t agree you are being disingenuous.
Huh? Maybe it’s just me, but I’m having trouble understanding what your position is…
For one though, everybody is not aware of it. And many who are do not care.
Sadly, this is not a rare occurance, even before Oct 7. But since then, you could find a headline like this (or worse) at least every week or two on average. At some point it becomes a pattern, and that point was years (if not decades) ago.
Mosab Hassan Yousef is a pathetic Israeli spy who does not live in Palestine. https://youtu.be/7E8JJUnFNo4
Weird that most of the people spreading terrorist propaganda here are the same telling that “he is an Israeli spy” or “he does not live in Palestine”.
What can I say. I finally see people predicating judgments towards Israel but never towards “Palestinian authorities” (terrorist groups) that they did everything in their power to kill, imprisoned and destroy lives of their fellow citizens by giving terrorist education to children for then go inside another country and kill in cold blood civilians.
Weird also that people like you absolutely erase from there memory movements like “We want to live” in Palestine where all of them got imprisoned and nobody ever talked about it.
Casually you people are the same that (always casually) fill up subreddits like Worldnews.
Now that you know the facts you should sit down from the podium of misinformation and check the facts without glorifying one of the other side of the organizations involved.
You know nothing and it shows.
