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    I am glad that the rest of the world is finally finding out just how insane Indian politics is. There’s a lot of fearmongering, grandstanding, and really stupid political stances going on in India, along with rampant human rights abuses.

    You think Republicans in the US are insane? They’ve got nothing on what goes on in India.

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      Most Indians they have emigrated out of that shithole country will never talk about this kind of thing or any of the actual lawlessness, level of corruption, bigotry, and religious intense that happens in India.

      I’m an Indian who’s moved to the US and I’m pretty pissed off that the US openly welcomed Modi after the was banned for what he did in the riots in the early 2000s.

      Hopefully the world gets to know the real India.

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    I am an Indian and I request you to ignore the trash talk these insignificant politicians do on a “live debate shows” to get views for news channels. These notorious news channels pays “politicians” to come to their show to fight, get insulted, speak gibberish and anything that can be done to increase viewership.

    Update: The person asking to nuke is a random dude, not a politician.

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      I am Canadian, and thank you for pointing this out. What a fucking mess, eh?

      Hope you’re doing well, and all this gets figured out soon.

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      i am not indian and i beg you to stop the cast system. stop supporting russia. grow up on the conflict with pakistan. any maybe even stop india it devs claiming to be able to develop proper software…it is always a framework wrapping a page or a template they copied at university. damn…indian devs drive me nuts

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        your bio: age 14 years, she/they, bisexual, #stopputin, white american (i know, i’m sorry), slava ukraina!

        genuinely if you think harassing a random indian online will help any problems india has you probably don’t belong on the internet. there are 1.4 billion indians

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    Why though? Why Canada?

    India has its hands full already with China, and there’s no ally to be found across their border with Pakistan either.

    So what gives? Why go pick on Canada, just because a guy there wanted to entertain the thought of a sikh state free from India?

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      Because Canada had the balls to say “yo why the fuck you killing someone in Canada?”

      The absolute gall.

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      Possibly even a second guy, depending on what exactly happened to the guy in Winnipeg. Makes me wonder if just more and more of the separatist advocates are going to die in mysterious circumstances and India will keep boasting about it and threatening anyone who calls Modi out on it.

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      Because Modi solidifies domestic power by labeling any Sikh protestor as khalistanist (i.e. terrorist). Any whiff of separatism is a threat to his power. Canada just got in the way

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      India and China both understand that they aren’t each other’s greatest military rivals solely because the Himalayas make any large military action impossible. They also understand that they aren’t each other’s greatest economic rivals because their states of development complement each other.

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    What would happen if a non aligned country nukes NATO? I know India is aligning themselves with Russia or atleast the news is presenting it that way but. Would all nuclear armed countries nuke India? Would it cause Russia to Nuke the USA and vice versa or would everyone nuke India or only a back and forth between NATO and India?

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      When India launched their nukes, Pakistan would probably nuke India, fearing they were being targeted. Article 5 gets triggered and every NATO member is at war with India, which might involve nuking them, might not. Russia would probably launch their nukes in response to NATO countries firing their nukes at India because, again, they’d think they might be being targeted. If NATO didn’t launch nukes and just carries out a conventional attack on India, Russia probably doesn’t get involved militarily.

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      I don’t believe there would be retaliatory nukes as that would just lead to further retaliation. India would quickly get cut off from international trade and financial systems and become a total pariah. Their only friends would be the other pariah states like ruzzia.

      Now if the US got nuked there would definitely be military retaliation.

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        No, it would be much, much worse than that. Nuking a country is a declaration of war and an unprecedented violation of the post-WW2 norms that have prevented global nuclear armageddon. If the nuked country is in NATO, then NATO will absolutely go to war. That’s the whole point of NATO. NATO would probably not start with nuclear retaliation, but India would get invaded and/or be forced to capitulate. It would be like Japan after WW2. India would be forced to give up its nukes. Modi and other leaders would be tried as war criminals. Significant adjustments to the Indian constitution would be made. Permanent NATO bases would be established in India. Within a couple of years, India would be allowed to hold elections and self-govern again as a non-nuclear NATO ally, which would both protect it from Pakistan or China and make it entirely dependent on NATO for that protection.

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          I’m surprised the other person is downplaying the consequences of a nuclear strike. If they actually followed through with this then India would be glass in thirty minutes

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            I simply disagree. Canada has no nukes of our own so in order to “glass” India, one of the other nuclear powers would have to take that step which then opens them up for retaliation. I just don’t know if I trust the commitment of other NATO countries to commit that hard.

            Think about it, if India nuked Canada because we accused them of assassination, they will definitely attempt to nuke anyone else that attempts to punish them for that. Now if you’re a NATO country other than Canada, are you willing to get yourself nuked as well? I just don’t know if anyone else would put themselves in that position.

            The reality of the situation is that India would never do something so crazy so it’s pointless to speculate about what the response would be.

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              The US would retaliate before the nuke even landed in Canada. The Monroe doctrine is still in effect.

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                Lol the US will invade not because they are our ally, but because they believe they are the only ones that are allowed to attack Canada.

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                  Nah - they’d retaliate (not necessarily nuclear) as they don’t like nukes in their part of the world.
                  This is assuming the subs could fire their nukes, that the rockets would go where intended and the nukes not being intercepted.
                  Recent events shows that there’s a difference between testing weapons in controlled environments and using them for real.

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          Great response. I think everything you said is essentially the promise that NATO makes, but as I said to another poster, if India is going to nuke Canada because we accused them of assassination, they will definitely nuke anyone that attacks them. Canada has no nukes of our own, so we couldn’t directly retaliate. Now if you’re the leader of another NATO country, are you going to risk getting nuked for the sake of NATO? I just don’t think anyone else would be willing to step up like that when the shit hits the fan. Think about it… are you willing to risk getting your country nuked for NATO? I just don’t know.

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              By your very logic, if they are willing to nuke over nothing, they’ll also do it to countries that sanction them.

              Good point, but the number of countries sanctioning India would definitely far exceed the number that would retaliate militarily against them. Non-NATO countries would join in on sanctions but would not join the fight, so there would simply be too many sanction targets to retaliate against.

              Just because you wouldn’t help your friends in a fight or if they got attacked doesn’t mean everyone is the same as you and just watch while it happens doing nothing.

              I’m Canadian so I’ve been considering this from the viewpoint of the one who got attacked. I’m really having trouble believing my friends (other NATO countries) would put their necks out on the line, and I think they would be more cautious in the face of their own nuclear destruction.

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    Jesus christ how unhinged do you have to be to go on live television just fucking say that out loud? Actual loonies running the country there.

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      Decades of elections and “leadership” across most countries means lots of places have lots of people who think they know what they’re doing, but really don’t. So they think being in power means threatening use of power.

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    “How dare you accuse us of murder? If you keep this up, we’ll show you our peaceful ways by force!”

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    Further proving the authoritarian Indian government are very similar to the Kremlin regime

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    Nothing says “we didn’t do it” like threatening to nuke one of the most peaceful countries in the world.

    After all the worry about NATO and Russia starting WW3. It would be almost comical if it was India that did it.

    Out of curiosity. What countries would back India’s unprecedented surprise nuking of Canada? Or would they just be opening themselves up to being attacked by the entire planet at that point?

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    this article showed up on r/worldnews too. i wonder why they don’t get any more specific than “an indian politician”

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    My favorite fact about Indian nuclear weapons is that the only way they got the tritium for the bombs from a Canadian-designed CANDU reactor. They were not supposed to generate too much tritium as a byproduct but eventually there was enough for the Indians to build the tamper for a Teller-Ulam nuke.