• CircaV@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    So he’s choosing WW3. If the US attacks Greenland, that is attacking Denmark which is attacking the EU, he’d start a war between allies in NATO. Denmark would cite article 5, it would be war between NATO countries and the US.

    • DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      On paper yes, but the reality is that the rest of NATO will likely not react when faced with the prospect of having to fight America. Remember that There are 3-5 more countries with more nuclear weapons than the British and French. USA, Russia, China, and possibly India/Pakistan. … MAGA is playing footsies with Russia, NATO cant survive a war against Russia backed up by a hostile America. They’d call it a day and resign “leave europe alone or we’ll launch the nukes”. everyone outside of continental europe will be fucked, that means greenland, canada, mexico, etc.

      any “war” would be clandestine. Conventionally, NATO sans US would be able to handle Russia, but US and Russia both attacking NATO, NATO loses that scenario 10 out of 10. Right now, NATO is fucked if push comes to shove.

      While its been largely spent, Russia is in a war economy mode. they’ve already pulled the trigger and crossed the bridge on the whole “Sending hundreds of thousands to their deaths” step.

      America has a huge arsenal of ammunition , weapon systems, and logistics ready for war on short notice.

      NATO has neither of those things. They waited until Russia was already fully mobilized for war, and sat on their hands hoping Trump wasn’t going to be the sociopath that he is, They waited this long to finally start making preparations for the possibility of full scale war. In short, they are several steps behind and if the game starts for real, they are at an extreme disadvantage,

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      2 days ago

      Hold your horses - NATO general secretary Mark Rütte has already said that he “wouldn’t want to drag NATO into all this”… 🙄

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        2 days ago

        The position of NATO general secretary is irrelevant, the actual treaty is irrelevant, in the end military action is always a political choice of member states.

        The worrisome part of course is that Mark Rütte was leader of an EU country for 14 years. There are certain to be people loyal to the USA in EU politics and military after all those year of US alignment. Heck Russia has managed to buy a few EU politicians in a couple of decades.