Out of the entire bullshit mess, he’s maybe the one cop involved that got charged for the wrong thing. Aiding and abetting is iffy. I didn’t see the evidence during the trial though. But doing crowd control, that’s a stretch for that charge, imo.
But what the fuck else is there?
I’m not aware of any other crime he could have been charged with that’s more accurate.
It seems like the offense was more about not intervening in any way, no calls to supervisor, no attempt to stop the murder, not getting medical attention for the victim. Holding back the crowd was minor in the face of those actions.
Yeah, I can see that. But I put myself in that moment, and I have to wonder if he had the time to think and make a judgement about what was occurring, or if he was so focused on maintaining distance between the crowd and the other cops that it was more of a momentum thing where the habits of crowd control kicked in.
The problem now is that he wasn’t really the focus of the videos (or wasn’t in the ones I’ve seen). I haven’t seen or heard any witness testimony that conflicts with him having more fucked up than intentionally contributing to murder. That’s negligent as hell, but I can see it happening easily even to highly principled people.
The fact that he’s not that principled, that he’s been so unapologetic about his part makes it much harder to give the benefit of the doubt though. Like, if he can’t muster up genuine regret that a man died on his watch, then it’s harder to not react emotionally to his part in things
I haven’t watched the full video since it was originally available. It did fuck with my head. I’ve seen way too much death in my life to watch it any more.
Being not a lawyer, I offer no comment on the technicalities, but whatever the applicable statute, it’s good that there’s a penalty for holding the crowd back during a murder.
Oh, hell yes! The dude definitely contributed to a homicide. And seeing them get consequences, even though the heat is off to some degree, is a really big deal, and a very rare thing with officer involved deaths.
What do you think about less than five years, though? I’m trying to guess what the sentence would be for someone without a badge holding back a crowd during a murder. Longer than five years, I’d wager.
I’m axially okay with it on an emotional level. He may be a dick (and I think he kinda would get hated on no matter whether or not he expresses any regrets), but looking at the videos of the time, I can’t say that he was acting in malice, or intentionally helping the others to commit a crime. It was chaotic, and I can understand making bad choices in the moment. I’d like to think I would have made better choices, but all humans are fallible.
So the relatively short sentence matches the level of responsibility when compared to the other sentences.
If I take into account that the guy is a dick, there’s a bit of an urge to want a longer sentence, I can’t lie and say I don’t have that response. But if I set that aside, the above applies
Out of the entire bullshit mess, he’s maybe the one cop involved that got charged for the wrong thing. Aiding and abetting is iffy. I didn’t see the evidence during the trial though. But doing crowd control, that’s a stretch for that charge, imo.
But what the fuck else is there?
I’m not aware of any other crime he could have been charged with that’s more accurate.
It seems like the offense was more about not intervening in any way, no calls to supervisor, no attempt to stop the murder, not getting medical attention for the victim. Holding back the crowd was minor in the face of those actions.
Yeah, I can see that. But I put myself in that moment, and I have to wonder if he had the time to think and make a judgement about what was occurring, or if he was so focused on maintaining distance between the crowd and the other cops that it was more of a momentum thing where the habits of crowd control kicked in.
The problem now is that he wasn’t really the focus of the videos (or wasn’t in the ones I’ve seen). I haven’t seen or heard any witness testimony that conflicts with him having more fucked up than intentionally contributing to murder. That’s negligent as hell, but I can see it happening easily even to highly principled people.
The fact that he’s not that principled, that he’s been so unapologetic about his part makes it much harder to give the benefit of the doubt though. Like, if he can’t muster up genuine regret that a man died on his watch, then it’s harder to not react emotionally to his part in things
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I haven’t watched the full video since it was originally available. It did fuck with my head. I’ve seen way too much death in my life to watch it any more.
Being not a lawyer, I offer no comment on the technicalities, but whatever the applicable statute, it’s good that there’s a penalty for holding the crowd back during a murder.
Oh, hell yes! The dude definitely contributed to a homicide. And seeing them get consequences, even though the heat is off to some degree, is a really big deal, and a very rare thing with officer involved deaths.
What do you think about less than five years, though? I’m trying to guess what the sentence would be for someone without a badge holding back a crowd during a murder. Longer than five years, I’d wager.
And this fucker still has no regrets.
I’m axially okay with it on an emotional level. He may be a dick (and I think he kinda would get hated on no matter whether or not he expresses any regrets), but looking at the videos of the time, I can’t say that he was acting in malice, or intentionally helping the others to commit a crime. It was chaotic, and I can understand making bad choices in the moment. I’d like to think I would have made better choices, but all humans are fallible.
So the relatively short sentence matches the level of responsibility when compared to the other sentences.
If I take into account that the guy is a dick, there’s a bit of an urge to want a longer sentence, I can’t lie and say I don’t have that response. But if I set that aside, the above applies