• Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      11 months ago

      Are they lost? Yes

      Have they lost? Unfortunately no, they’re going to throw death and suffering at this conflict they started until they get what they want or they (somehow) run out of bodies to throw.

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        11 months ago

        They have strengthened their ability to pull from prisons too which opens up hundreds of thousands of more bodies for the front lines.

        The west needs to double down and double down again in support of Ukraine.

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              11 months ago

              …letting an authoritarian state gain more power and influence?..

              That’s one weird argument. Are you implying that meddling with other state’s affairs is justified if it’s to keep it from gaining power and influence?

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                11 months ago

                That’s one weird argument. Are you implying morality stops at borders?

                And it’s not even meddling, they are asking for help.

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                  11 months ago

                  Are you implying morality stops at borders?

                  Kind of, yeah. A moral cause in one country can be an evil wrongdoing in other. Case in point - Al-Qaeda was formed because US troops were deployed in some country in the middle east to defend someone.

                  And it’s not even meddling, they are asking for help.

                  I’m okay with helping Ukraine. I’m not okay if it’s helping only to fuck with Russia.