• elshandra@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I think that there are a lot of 8 billion people who would disagree with comfortably well. That number needs to be closer to two, to be sustainable with earth’s resources. At least that’s my understanding, not disappointed if wrong.

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      8 months ago

      The problem is not the resources, it’s the distribution. No political will to end global poverty, no profit in feeding the hungry.

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        8 months ago

        Oh absolutely, people gonna keep being people. The truth seems to be that we don’t really know, but it’s likely somewhere between 4 and 16 from the little bit of reading up I just did.

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          8 months ago

          Yeah, I tend to most notice reports of overfishing. Food from land sources is almost entirely farmed but we still get a lot of seafood from wild sources plus don’t have aquaculture anywhere near as advanced as agriculture: there’s not much we can do. Loss of a marine food source is a big deal, and we keep doing that with more species. One solution is fewer people

          A lot of the higher estimates assume we can overcome limitations like this with better management of resources, but that is against human nature and our current incentives. It’s not going to happen, even if lives depend on it

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            8 months ago

            Let’s not forget water… And eventually, oxygen… But keep buying/selling those trinkets people, for the economy.

            And well, how much of these resource estimates leave enough for other life too, or does all other life just exist to feed us?..