cross-posted from: https://lemmy.crimedad.work/post/138601

“That son of a bitch, Bibi Netanyahu, he’s a bad guy,” said Biden privately, according to Woodward. “He’s a bad fucking guy!”

Reads like a bloody Onion article.

  • Asafum@feddit.nlEnglish
    16911·
    3 months ago

    “But we’ll still give him whatever he wants. That AIPAC there frightens me”

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1047·
      3 months ago

      Literally…

      This comment didn’t happen yesterday, it was months ago. And Biden still hasn’t changed.

      And it still hasn’t stopped Bibi from pushing for trump

      There is literally no benefit for loyalty to a facist government, the second you’re not 100% with them you’re 100% against them. It’s the same way trump acts

    • normalexit@lemmy.worldEnglish
      872·
      3 months ago

      AIPAC and Citizens United are actually frightening.

      https://abcnews.go.com/538/pro-israel-groups-spent-big-oust-squad-members/story?id=113675889

      https://apnews.com/article/cori-bush-aipac-house-race-missouri-568c1a84974b8ba176a8d27a8375de42

      They are able to change the outcome of races with seemingly unlimited money. A spend of 8.4 million in a Missouri primary is absurd, and likely is a drop in the bucket of what is spent influencing the presidential race.

      I don’t think there is a way to fix this either, since the people that should be writing laws to prevent it are the ones benefiting the most.

      I imagine this is also happening in Republican primaries, so one can’t just vote differently to address the root cause. Both republicans and Democrats seem to be tripping over each other to prove what a friend they are to Israel. It’s really weird and stressful to be a US citizen right now.

      • Asafum@feddit.nlEnglish
        182·
        3 months ago

        It’s really weird and stressful to be a US citizen right now.

        I can’t even begin to express how stressed I’ve been over this.

        Anyone that has the misfortune of recognizing they’ve been encountering my comments of pure exasperation lately will attest to that…

        I’m generally a pessimistic person, but I truly believe Trump is going to win this and the heritage foundation is going to be able to implement their plan to solidify control of the government.

          • Asafum@feddit.nlEnglish
            3·
            3 months ago

            We definitely need to keep hope, but unfortunately the way polls have worked out it’s like +4 is actually -2 when the real results come in.

            There was an article I read the other day about polling accuracy and they essentially said even just one week out polls are generally only 60% accurate. While I’d love to believe that gives more room for Harris, I think the more realistic scenario is that people are ashamed to admit they’re voting for Trump so he’s just showing lower support in polling than really exists. :(

          • sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.worldEnglish
            41·
            3 months ago

            Its pretty damn sad that we are being told to enthusiastically settle for the, “nothing will fundamentally change” candidate, in the face of obvious genocide and war crimes. But its hard to argue with the idea that a dem centrist beats a gop candidate. I wonder if that will ever change, or are we now permanently stuck voting for 5% better than fascism in every election.

      • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
        153·
        3 months ago

        This is very important info.

        I find here on Lemmy folks don’t often consider these types of second order consequences.

        It’s very ugly but it has to be considered.

        • Paddzr@lemmy.worldEnglish
          39·
          3 months ago

          Lemmy? Pick any platform. It’s full of “experts” shouting into the void for years now. It’s sickening how these people have the same rights to vote. (/A obviously)

          Your common folk knows Jack shit about their own politics and even less so about global ones. It’s good to hold people accountable but this? This is just madness. There is zero nuance and only goes from one extreme to other. Yes we all want zero civilian deaths, full tolerance, equal rights and for police to be better. But are there any real solutions out here? Ofc not. Just another cave dweller parroting same arguments they read somewhere. Critical thinking is a thing of the past. And it’s sad as I haven’t got an answer either.

        • normalexit@lemmy.worldEnglish
          191·
          3 months ago

          In a roundabout, totally legal way, yes they are. Technically it is a US organization that wants to strengthen US ties with Israel, so it’s totally not foreign influence /s

          • sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.worldEnglish
            21·
            3 months ago

            The last person to push AIPAC to be registered as a foriegn lobbyist group was Kennedy. He was murdered shortly afterwards. Unfortunate coincidence.

      • sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.worldEnglish
        103·
        3 months ago

        I hope someday Americans realize that its not scary muslims that are America’s enemy, its the zionists, and it always has been since partition.

        • WldFyre@lemm.eeEnglish
          31·
          3 months ago

          I mean that’s simply because Muslims don’t have an effect on America’s policies or population for the most part. Any Abrahamic religion is problematic.

      • Badland9085@lemm.eeEnglish
        25·
        3 months ago

        I remember an Malaysian ex-Prime Minister was denounced by George W. Bush for saying that the Jews are ruling the world by proxy. Saying it’s the Jews is definitely extreme, but with these organizations and what we’re seeing playing out politically, it’s hard to say there’s no truth in what that PM said.

          • Badland9085@lemm.eeEnglish
            22·
            3 months ago

            I agree with that, and I don’t think what I said alleges that all Jews are Zionists. Mahatir is labelled an antisemite and openly critical of Israel. He claims to have Jewish friends however. Now I don’t agree with this old fart on a lot of things, and I definitely condemn the fact that he’s using the word “Jews” when criticizing Israel and Zionism. But when you have wealthy Jewish organizations actively lobbying for Zionism in one if not the most powerful nation on Earth to continue facilitating the horrors that we see playing out in the Middle East with no intention or desire of stopping, even when their own people are dying in the process, I find it hard to disagree that these Zionsists aren’t in control of the world to some extent.