• hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world
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    The cracking in the DNC was obvious. Even back to the 2000 Supreme Court interference with the Bush Gore Election. Kerry was a weak candiate in 2004, Obama only barely got past Hillary Clinton in the primary because he was wildly popular when he should have sailed to victory without issue but then they failed to keep any inovations from that 8 year period (get out the vote, social media savy, youth outreach, etc. ) when Clinton came sweeping back in 2016 and wondered how they lost that momentum.

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      but then they failed to keep any inovations from that 8 year period (get out the vote, social media savy, youth outreach, etc. ) when Clinton came sweeping back in 2016 and wondered how they lost that momentum.

      It’s not a secret why it shook out that way…

      Obama held a grudge against the DNC as an organization, not just for siding with Hillary, but then not supporting him in the general.

      Which lead to Obama being one of the first (might be the only) to not nominate a DNC chair.

      So the people who worked against him, nominated one of their own.

      And they repeated in 2012.

      So if you’re wondering why Obama didn’t permanently change the party…

      He just fucking choose not to. Voters did their part and he let us down out of personal pride to show he was more important than the party

      And that let neoliberals hold onto the party till about 3 months ago. Clinton’s people didn’t have to sweep in, because they never had to leave

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        Tradition or not, there’s no reason the DNC needed Obama to bless a chair candidate. They chose to throw progress and his contributions away.

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          They chose to throw progress and his contributions away.

          Yes …

          After working against him in the primary and the general, the 2008 DNC choose to not pick a DNC chair who shared Obama’s values after he failed to nominate one.

          What’s more concerning than you thinking anyone wouldn’t be able to guess that’s what would happen, is you seem to be implying it’s the same DNC who finally learned their lesson and elected the most progressive chair in around 50 years…

          Like, if you and I could figure out what the DNC was going to, why couldn’t Obama have?

          The voters got behind Obama to save the party, he got what he wanted and said fuck it.

          And people still kiss his nuts for getting us a more conservative version of the Republican healthcare plan.

          For all our sake you need to start looking past a single letter and start reading some modern history books.