Summary
Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) traveled to El Salvador to seek the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Maryland resident wrongfully deported in March.
Abrego Garcia, married to a U.S. citizen with three children, was legally allowed to stay under a 2019 court order.
The Trump administration admitted his deportation was an “administrative error” but refused his return. The Supreme Court ruled against the administration 9-0.
In response, the White House launched a smear campaign against Van Hollen, framing Garcia as a gang member despite no charges or convictions.
Van Hollen did the right thing and it should be recognized. It’s time to stand up to this fucking regime in any way we can.
at the same time they allowed A gop clown to visit the CECOT, to get a thumbs up and a photo op.
He had to know this was going to happen.
I’m just amazed at how incredibly ballsy it is for him to go down there knowing that doing so is basically kicking a hornet’s nest of entitled fascists that have already defined themselves by ignoring orders from the court.
He’s just doing his job, and honoring the oath to uphold and defend the US Constitution. And for that we should applaud him, when many others have failed to do their jobs and uphold their oath.
Reminds me of the congressman who went down to Jones Town.
Hopefully this has a better outcome
Yeah it feels a bit like daring them to make the move and take the mask off. It takes balls and I’m all for it. Show America who we voted for, on both sides.
Any American citizen is now just lucky to not run across an ICE agent having a bad day and being sent to prison for life with no trial or rights, which we were supposed to hold self evident. This isn’t America anymore. We need to take MAGA and beat it down until it’s MANA, Make America Normal Again.
Some American citizens carry, so if a so called “ICE agent” happens to try to abduct the wrong one, without refusing to identify themselves; their day will surely get worse.
A court has demanded the Trump admin return this man, and their defense has been that they don’t have the power to do it. Now they publicly criticize a Senator for trying to get the man returned.
They really are stupid when it comes to undermining their own case, aren’t they?
They really are stupid when it comes to undermining their own case, aren’t they?
No, they are not. It’s a mistake to think of them as stupid, as that leads to underestimating the threat they pose.
They don’t care about winning this case in the conventional sense. Trump and his allies couldn’t care less what happens to Kilmar Abrego Garcia; what they’re after is the power to exile or imprison people without due process of law.
SCOTUS didn’t order his return. The ruling was that this is a foreign policy matter at this point and the executive branch has foreign policy power, not the court. SCOTUS rule that the Trump administration has to facilitate his return. Trump is willing to facilitate his return, but El Salvador said no, and that is the end of discussion for this matter.
Anyway, it would be ridiculously weird for El Salvador to send their own citizen to the US who initiated came to the US illegally.
The whole reason you put concentration camps in a foreign nation is to remove them from SCOTUS jurisdiction. Then you get to sit back and say, “We can’t compel a sovereign state,” while the sovereign state gets to sit back and say, “We’d gladly return these people, if only POTUS would ask.” Just one capo doing a favor for a fellow capo, somehow neither one of them able to do the right thing.
It was an administrative error. There is a valid deportation order for that man. There is also a withholding order which only applies to El Salvador. The only mistake in the deportation was the destination.
Do you have some sources for this? There’s so much emotional baggage with this its hard to get to the facts.
In my mind saying the only mistake is the destination Is an incredible understatement.
“The only issue with your heart transplant is we had a paperwork mixup and replaced your liver instead.”“I know you came in for just a vehicle safety inspection but our mechanics messed up and replaced your engine, here’s the bill.”
“We had a mix up at the hospital and the child you’ve raised for 3 years isn’t actually yours. Our bad, but there’s nothing we can do to fix it and there’s nothing we’re going to do to prevent it in the future. Good luck!”
Don’t downplay this shit and fall into dehumanizing others because they must have done something to deserve the position they are in. Don’t lose sight of empathy. Try pretending it’s a loved of yours. If one of mine fucked up and deserve punishment then fine, but there better be a fair trial and they deserve their chance to prove their innocence.
There is a valid and effective deportation order. For deportation purpose, there was no need to prove him guilty at the criminal court. If he was deported to another country, this would be completely in compliance.
You need to provide me exactly what you disagree with. Doesn’t make sense for me to provide you sources for every fact in this matter.
They’ve admitted there was an error, and are not being transparent in the extent of the error nor are they trying to correct the error. I dispute every fact in this matter because the main source I believe you are using are the people at fault for it. They aren’t even doing the common curtsey of an “internal investigation” reach around that typical police do after they’ve fuck us.
It doesn’t make sense that you wouldn’t throw out a couple random sources to your claims since it’s cut and dry in your mind. Show me the valid deportation order. Show me the evidence they used to forgo immigration court (why the fuck would he be in criminal court?) to have an expidited removal to a place a previous court said he could not go.
It’s easy to prove us stupid ass sheeple wrong, fucking do it…
I suppose you don’t have any direct evidence to support your argument either.
ICE already admitted the man was deported in error. So why are you making up stuff? These facts are easy to check, I can only assume you’re either a troll or a foreign agitator.
The Trump administration already admitted this was an administrative error. I said that as well. Perhaps you should re-read what I wrote.
There is no deportation order for him you buffoon otherwise ICE wouldn’t have confirmed he was deported in error. Do you think the admin error was thinking there was an error? How do you make those leaps in logic?
First, someone cannot be granted withholding of removal without having an order of removal. The immigration judge must first determine that the person is removable, and then the person can apply for withholding.
Second, the withholding of removal is limited to El Salvador, which means he can be deported to other countries.
As such, the error is the destination only
Do you think he’s gonna reward you if you lick his boots hard enough?
I was just stating the facts.
I’m amazed at how confidently wrong you are. Did you bother to read any of this yourself?
Yes, I read the ruling. Would you like to elaborate on what you disagree with me about?
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This is not even a point of dispute. If El Salvador won’t return their own citizen, then it is what it is.
If Trump is dissing somebody, that’s a good indicator they’re alright.
The reaction of these people to a senator traveling to another country to try to correct their admitted mistake is fucking disgusting.
I feel like the US is really not getting the memo here, this is fascist dictatorship swaddled in an American flag. This is what dictators do, the next steps are dismantling the other institutions and agencies that could potentially preserve the old country’s rules and laws. As they are already doing blatantly.
Guys… the US is falling. Why aren’t people organizing?
Make no mistake. Last time Trump got legitimately “thrown out of his palace” he called upon an army of insurrectionists to storm the capitol.
Now he’s back in there, surrounded by yes-men, and his insurrectionist army is pardoned and with boosted confidence that they can spread chaos without consequences. And by being POTUS many of his armed forces supporters have the “following orders” and “his elected authority” excuse to side with him against the remaining government branches and the people - even if their oath is to the constitution.
Whatever enforcement entity SCOTUS can get to impose actual consequences to this administration’s wrongdoing on April 23rd, if it comes to it, Trump won’t take it lying down. That’s a guarantee with these savages.
out of the loop european here, what’s happening on April 23rd
And here it is as foretold… The first of no doubt many “1 week extensions” to the deadline.
IF Van Hollen manages to return safely, he’ll have to look over his shoulder for the rest of his entire life.
But I’m not convinced he’s going to come back.
We’re not at the stage where sitting senators are being murdered or disappeared.
