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    In other news lemmy engagement is up 200% on the week

    Don’t fact check me I pulled this out my ass

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    “Last week, the text-based social media platform reported a record 100 million sign-ups in just five days.”

    LOL The biggest bullshit of the year… Meta just created shadow accounts of all Instagram users, without their knowledge or consent…

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      100 million isn’t that much when it comes to Meta. There’s over 2 billion “active” Instagram users that all were prompted to download the app. That means only 0.005% of Instagram accounts fell for it.

      I have no doubt that at least that many people tried it out. When I went to the Android App store, Meta was paying for a front and center promotion of Threads.

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      Is there a way to check if a user account exists for my instagram account without logging in?

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        People who voluntarily tried out Threads is not the claim that was made:

        Meta just created shadow accounts of all Instagram users

        That is a lie.

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      Not to mention all the spam bots they fail to actually ban after multiple people report.

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        Bots generate user engagement! Granted, it’s bad engagement, but it also generates jobs for the moderator AI teams

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    They gave up all their personal data to see a crappy algo-driven social media site. Meta still considers this a win.

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    It’s Google Plus all over again.

    If people wanted the bird app, they would have already got the bird app, if they don’t like the bird app, they would have got a Mastodon account.

    It feels like the same reason that Reels isn’t doing well, people who wanted TikTok would have already got TikTok, you can’t force Instagram users to like Twitter/TikTok but on their Insta account instead.

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      if they don’t like the bird app, they would have got a Mastodon account.

      Doubt. The venn diagram of people who don’t want to use twitter and people who know what mastodon is, are separate circles with little overlap. Mastodon is not mainstream, like reddit. Redditors are still in denial about this.

      Go ask a random 40 year old if they know what reddit is.

      Even less people know about mastodon.

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        I should have been more specific, what I meant was "people who want to use a microblogging platform but don’t like who’s running the bird app. "

        But I would say reddit is mainstream enough that random 40 year olds probably has heard of it now, after all the large big profile celebrity AMAs, it’s the 10th most visited site in the world and 6th in the US.

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          And Misskey is mostly Japanese artists who need more privacy. Hence, Misskey is a Japanese product, and Japanese Twitter refugees might find Misskey useful. People should join any other Misskey instance instead, if Misskey.io is full.

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            Weirdly placed comment, but I do think these platforms need the advertising, so do continue to spread the word

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      Google+ had more than one thing wrong with it. Just for example …

      The precursor to Google+ was called Google Buzz, and it was rolled out to Gmail users in a way that exposed privacy & security problems with Gmail contacts. This led to a lawsuit and a settlement which Google had to obey when releasing their next “social media” attempt.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Buzz#Privacy

      As a result, Google+ became a heavy-handed effort that tried to hew closely to the settlement’s privacy & consent requirements while assimilating seemingly-unrelated projects such as YouTube comments.

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        IMHO Google+ had one good thing: Circles. You could define groups of people to share stuff with, without those people having to “join a group”.

        I don’t think people understood it well, though.

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      It feels like the same reason that Reels isn’t doing well, people who wanted TikTok would have already got TikTok, you can’t force Instagram users to like Twitter/TikTok but on their Insta account instead.

      I’m never going to download or sign up for TikTok. I know Meta isn’t really that great as far as privacy goes, but at least they don’t share information directly with the CCP. Fuck the CCP. IG Reels works just fine for me. I actually can’t stand the IG home feed because of the algorithm showing me what it wants to show me instead of a chronological timeline of the posts of the people I follow, so I mostly just use IG for stories and Reels.

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        Unless you live in China, are a Chinese national, or have someone living in China who could be used to blackmail you, then you shouldn’t care much about what data the CCP has on you.

        Meta shares data with the NSA and likely any other US allies, so that might be a slight concern if you live in any country like that.

        Lemmy makes all its data essentially free for everyone to grab, so… Hi CCP, Hi NSA, Hi CIA, Hi MI6, Hi FSB…

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        Yeah I hate that curated list bullshit. It made both FB and YouTube worse, too. And both were intended to manipulate users into spending more time there. Ironically, I haven’t been on as many YouTube dives into the random following interesting videos from the recommended ones since they started curating their list based on what you’ve previously watched (and seemingly picking one or two of them to tunnel vision on).

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          YouTube used to work by showing you videos that other people who watched that video watched, which was really great for music discovery. Now it shows me things that I already watched with a small sprinkling of new things. The front page still suggests things I haven’t seen before related to things I watched. I think they were pressured to make that change because it was taking impressionable people too quickly down rabbit holes of extremism… seems like it still does though.

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    I mean, to be honest, I feel like it’s the quality of the content in there. I used my old phone (the one I use for apps like threads) to get a threads account and people are using Threads as if they’re using instagram.

    For example, you see a pocture of someone or a drawing, you get into the post to see the 45 comments people left and all of them are:

    Comment #1: “Magnificent 🥰😍” #2: “Amazing 🤩” #3: “WOW!! 🔥🔥”

    And so on.

    At least in twitter there is more “discussion” (albeit toxic and usually useless) or at least more people sometimes talking about interesting things.

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      That’s pretty much exactly what I expected. Instagram is exactly like this. Filled to the brim with fake engagement, bots, and an occasional real person account, who also happens to be doing things that horribly affect people’s mental health

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      I guess it turns out that when you pretty much automatically port over so the Instagram users they treat it like Instagram.

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      toxic and useless dont really summarize it imo- last few times I went there the top 10-15 comments were just screaming right wingers yelling about a conspiracy of some sort no matter what the topic is

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        Looking in the replies of any new scientific discovery is infuriating, they’re all spouting inane shit about how “science changed its story, so it has no credibility, this is proof that the earth is flat and 6000 years old.”

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      the only reason it has any users is that it gave some fakeout on insta UI that your friends were talking about you on threads and, as per Meta usual, it was all bullshit. typical zuccing egotism for his upcoming cagematch.

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    But, he added, Sensor Tower data suggests a significant pullback in user engagement since Threads’ launch: On Tuesday and Wednesday, the platform’s number of daily active users were down about 20% from Saturday, and the time spent for user was down 50%, from 20 minutes to 10 minutes.

    strange. my “engagement” on lemmy is… “all day”. strange indeed.

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      I tried it, because I still have a Facebook account I barely used.

      I got like two screens of people I subscribed to and after they are out of new posts the platform tries to push a bunch of popular influencers and brands that I couldn’t care less about. They couldn’t get me to close it faster if they tried.

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      no anonymity

      I doubt that Instagram users who willingly install an another app made by Facebook care about that lol

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        They want anonymity from relatives/friends. Most people don’t care much about advertisers knowing their interests.

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    I’m one of the many who deactivated not too long after it launched. My dashboard was just being filled with so many users (mostly celebrities and influencers) who I don’t recall ever following or even being on my sphere of interest. It doesn’t help that their posts are inorganic attempts to spur engagement.

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      Threads never released in the EU in the first place, so this absolutely is not the reason for lowered engagement.

      In an indirect way it could be though - not having the entirety of the EU on Threads is a huge non-starter for many people, as many of their favourite influencers, celebrities, companies, etc will be from the EU who were never able to get on it.

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        It’s pretty hard to start working in the EU if you look at the absolute pile of data that Threads demanded. The GDPR paperwork to make sure they can get away with that AND still comply to GDPR would be more than the whole internet.

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      Anyone signing up for a new Meta account isn’t going to be suddenly surprised at how invasive it is. The people who signed up for Threads obviously don’t give a shit about privacy, as much as I’d like to think otherwise.

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        I’ve had this conversation many times, and they always say something like “I have nothing to hide, so I don’t care”, to which I respond with “I have to hide, either, but nothing I want to share. Since you have nothing to hide and you don’t care, what’s your bank account number, tax ID number, credentials, etc. etc. I won’t use it for anything bad, promise.”

        They still don’t get it…

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          I’ve had some success by asking them to unlock their phone and give it to me so I can read their messages and look at their photos. As they refuse, I tell them “but you just said you’ve got nothing to hide and you don’t care?”

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            I did that once to a friend of mine, but because he knows me and known I’m trustworthy, he did it hahaha I had to resort to verbalizing the invasive actions I would take when I got the phone so that my point would sink in

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        Especially since there’s over 2 BILLION Instagram users. Why would anyone who uses Instagram have any concerns with Threads?

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      This is absolutely not a concern for 99% of people. As much as we (rightfully) scream about it on Lemmy and Mastodon, most people don’t care.

      Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, and others are already collecting this information already, it’s so strange to see people acting like this is a new phenomenon.

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    Is it because it’s filled to the brim with old memes? That would make me want to leave a new place. Tried kbin social the other day and the first three pages were all full of the old memes being posted here and i spent half an hour or so trying to figure out how to filter them out but couldn’t so I just uninstalled.

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        Look i’m not that much of a curmudgeon that i begrudge people enjoying themselves and getting along, I just need to be able to easily filter content i have no interest in, memes/macros being one of those. I’m still accessing lemmy through mobile browser and can skim past all that quite easily on here, but kbin blew every image up automatically and it was 90% of the content and i couldn’t figure out how to turn it off.

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          You should just need to block the community. There’s a 🚫 symbol on the sidebar of a community, just click that and the posts should stop showing up on any of your feeds.

          If you’re on mobile, the formating is kinda fucked so you’ll have to scroll to the bottom of the page to find it.

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      Yeah there was some boring fucking trend going around where people posted 10 year old memes. I had to block four or five communities to have a usable lemmy experience.

      In some ways this whole thing feels like WoW classic. A lot of people trying to relive the internet of their youth, while not realizing things weren’t actually that great back then either. I can haz cheesburger? What the fuck were we thinking.

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        To me that all felt very much like a Reddit thing. Somebody made a joke about that about posting old memes that was MAYBE mildly amusing, then everybody went ahead and killed the horse before beating it for 24 hours.

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        Agreed. These “trends” that last for a couple of days before switching to the next one are stupid. People just start spamming old shitty content only because everyone else is too. It definitely makes Lemmy more active but getting my feed filled with low effort shitposts is not the kind of activity I’m looking for. I’ve been here for a month and I’ve already blocked more users/communities than I ever did on reddit.

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    They launched it without addressing the obvious issues like spam and low-quality content. The easy migration from Instagram basically turned threads into… Instragram. Literally the same low quality posts and low quality engagement of Instagram transfered over. Seriously, have you ever read comments on Instagram? It’s the bottom of the barrel in the every sense of the expression. That’s Threads now.

    Also, poetically threads on Threads are even harder to follow and navigate than Twitter.

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      Isnt instagram primarily used for… pictures and images? I seen comments the times i have used it - the comments are generally very low quality and low brow.

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        I think both of your points are correct but a lot of celebrity types write straight up essays attached to some of their pictures - it’s like where they get out everything they can’t fit into 280 characters.

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    Makes sense. People are thirsty for a something along the lines of “Twitter, but fewer nazis”, so tons of people checked it out, but it still lacks feature parity with Twitter since it was a rushed-to-market MVP.

    I think once it adds on a handful of new features, it’s only a matter of time before audiences gravitate to Threads over a platform whose owner is bragging about funnelling money to human traffickers.

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        Because Lemmy top topic before are only talking about Reddit, and people love talk about it since api contro. Now since Reddit hype are down, people start to think how to make Lemmy topic different and somewhat great than on Reddit I think… So, it takes time to see the average Lemmy users activity…

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      If they all came from Instagram, or is used to how Instagram is, I’m not suprised this happens. People use Insta for likes only, not comments/discussions. Sadly.