It is indeed not a swastika. It actually has a unique name of its own. It’s actually just as easy or perhaps even easier to say than Nazi tattoo. But using it’s correct name isn’t as manipulative or as leading as calling it just a Nazi tattoo. Which is why they will never call it by name. Because most people would have no clue what it was in the first place lol. Even the guys that he served with have corroborated his story that he didn’t know what it was and neither did they. But this is all the people have and they will beat it till they die. Why I don’t know. What’s in it for them? It certainly isn’t honest though.
And it’s funny that the name people use (“totenkopf”) is just “deaths head”, i.e., any skull. The specific one he got did match a Panzer division logo, but it’s not a well publicized symbol that would be commonly recognized.
There’s some testimonies online even from his own Reddit account that alluded that he knew the meaning all along. I don’t know guys, but Platner just screams Fetterman 2.0 to me. Would really love to be proven wrong.
I think you’re a liar if you say you’d have recognized the SS totenkopf before this attack broke.
And I think you’re an idiot if you believe this is a secret Nazi plot that involves intentionally getting and keeping a Nazi tattoo for 20 years and only remembering to cover it up when you run for public office.
Really? That’s your argument? That there’s no way that a person would ever recognize an infamous SS symbol, so they must be lying? Lol wow.
I don’t know what else to tell you beside, yes I fucking did.
Pretty much anyone who has ever, in their life, studied WW2 and the Nazis beyond a surface level knows the symbol. I grew up watching WW2 documentaries on History Channel, so I’m sure that didn’t hurt.
And even if you haven’t, it’s literally the symbol in the “are we the baddies?” sketch.
Regarding the tattoo, my guess is that he never planned on having the electorate see the tattoo. But why the fuck do I need to analyze this guy’s decision about not covering up his Nazi tattoo?
For me, “he has a Nazi tattoo” is enough for me to not support him for public office. It’s very simple.
As I’ve said before, I’m not in Maine, but I would vote for him in the general if I was, and hope he’s not a fucking Nazi. Because in our shit system, it’s still a better choice than any Republican.
But I guess fuck me for wanting the bar to be a little higher than, “just vote for the murderer with the Nazi tattoo and hope for the best.”
It’s also pretty disheartening (and unfortunately, not all that surprising) to see the "I refuse to vote for anyone who supports genocide"crowd bend over backwards to avoid being critical of this fucking guy. The reddit edgelord who murdered Iraqis civilians.
When I was a marine I did and said a bunch of homophobic stuff. I just did it because it was the thing to do and I didn’t have a fully developed frontal lobe. I wasn’t the only one and there were a bunch of people in the same boat.
If he did it at like 34 I would probably assume he is lying. But if he did it before 25 I would say he did a stupid thing and can possibly look past it if his action match his rhetoric.
Remember everyone gooning for fetterman? He turned into a piece of shit without racist tattoos.
You sure are spending an awful lot of time and energy in this thread, defending what is quite a weak line of reasoning. Can I ask whose payroll you’re on? It might be time to tell the boss it’s not going too well here.
It takes me like 3 sec to type out a comment, dude, this isn’t hard work. There’s very little time, and essentially no energy put into this.
I fucking wish someone would pay me for this shit. I’ve literally said that I would vote for the guy if I were in Maine, so I don’t think they would want anything to do with me.
Yes to be clear I had heard of the totenkoph or the deaths head before. But it took till this false controversy surrounding it and looking at it. That I realized that I’d seen it other places as well. But didn’t know what it was even though I knew the name. Your average person knows far less than even that. Which is why, wherever mass media is reporting on it. Or whenever someone trying to manipulate people emotionally speaks of it. They always frame it as Nazi tattoo. Leaving people to imagine unambiguous or well known symbols like the swastika.
@andxz@Eldritch Education is important and in 6th grade, I was in a good school but in this country, I never heard of it (maybe it was my lack of hearing but I don’t think so).
I just read about Totenkpf. Better late than never. I lost relatives in the camps but it was just not brought up with the kids.
Well, a death’s head is no good, I completely agree. I’m European, though, and so saw these in school relatively early on. I’m just playing the devil’s advocate here, but would he have had access to the same level of knowledge?
I’m genuinely curious since I have no (or less, at least) skin in the game.
It is indeed not a swastika. It actually has a unique name of its own. It’s actually just as easy or perhaps even easier to say than Nazi tattoo. But using it’s correct name isn’t as manipulative or as leading as calling it just a Nazi tattoo. Which is why they will never call it by name. Because most people would have no clue what it was in the first place lol. Even the guys that he served with have corroborated his story that he didn’t know what it was and neither did they. But this is all the people have and they will beat it till they die. Why I don’t know. What’s in it for them? It certainly isn’t honest though.
And it’s funny that the name people use (“totenkopf”) is just “deaths head”, i.e., any skull. The specific one he got did match a Panzer division logo, but it’s not a well publicized symbol that would be commonly recognized.
What a load of bullshit, of course he knew what it was.
I swear, y’all will convince yourselves of literally anything.
There’s some testimonies online even from his own Reddit account that alluded that he knew the meaning all along. I don’t know guys, but Platner just screams Fetterman 2.0 to me. Would really love to be proven wrong.
Yeah, it’s not even like one of the more esoteric symbols, it’s the one that is most apparently evil at first glance
I think you’re a liar if you say you’d have recognized the SS totenkopf before this attack broke.
And I think you’re an idiot if you believe this is a secret Nazi plot that involves intentionally getting and keeping a Nazi tattoo for 20 years and only remembering to cover it up when you run for public office.
So, which are you?
Really? That’s your argument? That there’s no way that a person would ever recognize an infamous SS symbol, so they must be lying? Lol wow.
I don’t know what else to tell you beside, yes I fucking did.
Pretty much anyone who has ever, in their life, studied WW2 and the Nazis beyond a surface level knows the symbol. I grew up watching WW2 documentaries on History Channel, so I’m sure that didn’t hurt.
And even if you haven’t, it’s literally the symbol in the “are we the baddies?” sketch.
Regarding the tattoo, my guess is that he never planned on having the electorate see the tattoo. But why the fuck do I need to analyze this guy’s decision about not covering up his Nazi tattoo?
For me, “he has a Nazi tattoo” is enough for me to not support him for public office. It’s very simple.
As I’ve said before, I’m not in Maine, but I would vote for him in the general if I was, and hope he’s not a fucking Nazi. Because in our shit system, it’s still a better choice than any Republican.
But I guess fuck me for wanting the bar to be a little higher than, “just vote for the murderer with the Nazi tattoo and hope for the best.”
It’s also pretty disheartening (and unfortunately, not all that surprising) to see the "I refuse to vote for anyone who supports genocide"crowd bend over backwards to avoid being critical of this fucking guy. The reddit edgelord who murdered Iraqis civilians.
Legit question: how old was he when he got it?
When I was a marine I did and said a bunch of homophobic stuff. I just did it because it was the thing to do and I didn’t have a fully developed frontal lobe. I wasn’t the only one and there were a bunch of people in the same boat.
If he did it at like 34 I would probably assume he is lying. But if he did it before 25 I would say he did a stupid thing and can possibly look past it if his action match his rhetoric.
Remember everyone gooning for fetterman? He turned into a piece of shit without racist tattoos.
He got the tattoo at 23. Deployed oversees during the Iraq war. Almost 20 years ago. Nearly half his life ago.
You sure are spending an awful lot of time and energy in this thread, defending what is quite a weak line of reasoning. Can I ask whose payroll you’re on? It might be time to tell the boss it’s not going too well here.
It takes me like 3 sec to type out a comment, dude, this isn’t hard work. There’s very little time, and essentially no energy put into this.
I fucking wish someone would pay me for this shit. I’ve literally said that I would vote for the guy if I were in Maine, so I don’t think they would want anything to do with me.
I figured it was something like this. The Nazis appropriated so many symbols from so many different cultures that some are definitely not well known.
Yes to be clear I had heard of the totenkoph or the deaths head before. But it took till this false controversy surrounding it and looking at it. That I realized that I’d seen it other places as well. But didn’t know what it was even though I knew the name. Your average person knows far less than even that. Which is why, wherever mass media is reporting on it. Or whenever someone trying to manipulate people emotionally speaks of it. They always frame it as Nazi tattoo. Leaving people to imagine unambiguous or well known symbols like the swastika.
This is why education is important. We saw the Totenkpf in school for the first time in like the 6th grade here (northern Europe).
@andxz @Eldritch Education is important and in 6th grade, I was in a good school but in this country, I never heard of it (maybe it was my lack of hearing but I don’t think so).
I just read about Totenkpf. Better late than never. I lost relatives in the camps but it was just not brought up with the kids.
Yep, here in the US it wasn’t really touched on.
It’s a fucking totenkopf, it’s like the third most popular Nazi symbol after the swastika and the lightning bolt.
Well, a death’s head is no good, I completely agree. I’m European, though, and so saw these in school relatively early on. I’m just playing the devil’s advocate here, but would he have had access to the same level of knowledge?
I’m genuinely curious since I have no (or less, at least) skin in the game.
Maybe my opinion here is twisted because I grew up watching shows on the History Channel (back when it did history) about Nazis and WW2.
That said, I’m pretty sure I learned about Nazi symbols in high school, but I could be misremembering
Sorry we didn’t all grow up as enthralled by nazi symbology as you apparently did.
I’d say the mustache is higher on that list than an otherwise generic looking skull and crossbones.
Today I learned that knowing something means that I’m in its thrall.
Good to know!
So disingenuous. It does not look generic at all. This is a generic skull and crossbones ☠️
The death skull is a very specific design
Sorry, to me it just looks like a pirate flag. That’s the exact kind of tattoo I would expect a marine to get.