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LLMs are explosively imprecise, statistically luke-warm, grey goo extrusion spinsters, which is why all the logos for ‘AI’ companies are variations of arseholes.
This message doesn’t really land well at all in the way this comic is made. Another post does a much better job of undermining the comment by comparing to a meth addict.
“If AI was banned right now, would you be able to go on without it?”
Yes. I do this everyday.
I really have to try but same. Not because I like AI though, it’s just genuinely hard to use tech now adays without stumbling into something using AI.
Is that a trick question? Only imposters and truly inept people cannot live without AI support. The rest of us use their knowledge and experience to do our work, like we did in the years before this “Gift for the terminally inept” came about.
This is responding to a different post about how an AI bro acting smug of like “You hate AI so much? Try going through a day without Claude”
Found the post this comic is making fun of: https://lemmy.world/post/50401646
@schroedingersKoala the propaganda has even tricked some smart people I know. Its insane. If youre not constantly vigilant against it you can get sucked in. And most people have no idea theyre part of the grift.
Yep, no problem.
I get that people are afraid of change, which some countries do a bad job at protecting people from. That’s a separate (political) issue. I’m personally not a fan of how the U.S. handles such transformations. However, that aside, wouldn’t it be cool if we could do more ambitious things and have better quality of life?
For example, embodied AI will be able to take over household chores. It can already do very basic programming chores (babysit this, wait for that and kick this off if it works or try that if not) that don’t make sense to automate with a shell script.
Been getting along just fine without thank you very much.
It does feel fixating on this guys stupid comment is typical “find the stupidest person who holds a view you disagree with an pile on them and parade it as supposedly representative”. In discourse isn’t the strongest move to discredit the best arguments you disagree with rather than the worst?
Though he is a dick so who cares.
It is not far off the normal argument you see that somehow a chatbot is a revolutionary advancement to every facet of society. Even though, when pressed, all they can come up with is the nearly totally unrelated programs doing work on massive datasets in science and medicine or that it can almost write working isolated code in some languages.
I love shit like this.
Like. I work for a landscaping company. There is zero application of AI/LLMs/whatever to any aspect of my work. None of that shit is going to help me move piles of dirt, or plant saplings.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more horrifying example of projection in my life 💀
He can’t go through his day without AI because he’s made himself dependent on it instead of doing anything for himself, and he genuinely thinks that everyone else is the same way.
People have surrendered their critical thinking skills. Truth is, AI disappearing overnight really would be disastrous, because a huge portion of humanity is utterly addicted to it and incompetent without it.
I’m perfectly okay with that outcome.
Absolutely, let them burn
I mean I for one support hiring dumbasses. We’re all dumbasses in some area, we’ve just got to help eachother out, so I help you in an area you’re a dumbass about and then you help me bully HR or something.
Let’s just not pretend like we aren’t dumbasses. Only the boss wins then.
There’s a difference between being a genuine dumbass and choosing to be a dumbass.
This is true. I only support fellow dumbasses who come by it honestly
I don’t usually support “cull the weak” kinda mentalities… but cull the weak! Take away their AI and let the unemployed people who refuse to use AI take their jobs. I wanna see all these AI supporters go to the bottom of the barrel where they belong.
You know, if we can’t have UBI or a gift economy.
They’re incompetent with it too.
I am completely okay with everyone dumb enough to outsource their critical thinking to AI having their lifestyle upended when the AI bubble pops
The AI bubble might pop, but just as the dotcom bubble didn’t mean the end of the internet it won’t mean the end of AI. LLMs (or whatever might supersede them) are here to stay.
I agree, but it will mean an end to highly subsidized LLM subscriptions and free access to any cloud LLM worth actually using for anything, which will make it much harder for the average person to rely on LLMs as much as this person.
Just chatting with an LLM uses so few tokens I don’t really see that changing
You sound like you have a subscription
What do you mean by that?
I think most people were totally incompetent before AI. It’s just that now they have a tool that creates bullshit for them and an excuse when problems arise.
Some of the requests that come into my office now it’s like, I know the person barely even knows what they’re asking for, but they put it in the shape of a valid request so now I’ve got to expend energy to educate them on how what they’re asking for doesn’t make sense.
If they’d just come to me with honest questions and a rough outline of what they wanted, I could’ve helped them, but because they insist on filtering everything through an LLM I’ve got to try to communicate through this thick, meaning-eroding medium. It’s like trying to talk to someone through a mattress. Whatever happened to having the courage of your convictions. sigh
People have assumptions of what correct communication should be, and it generally has a minimum page length instead of minimum content amount.
The worst cases I’ve seen is when they’re trying to convince someone of something verbally, they get the agreement very quickly, but get stuck in convince mode rather than moving on since it shouldn’t be that easy.
Sounds like natural selection to me
Maybe. It may be recent enough that people could lapse back to some level of thinking for themselves.
Let’s explore something much more dependent now and see if it holds up. What if smartphones disappeared? We still have cellular phones, the Nokia makes a comeback, but the use of smartphones, iPads, tablets, that whole concept is gone. You have to get on a computer to do any of the internet type interactions.
Would people lose their minds?
You have to get on a computer to do any of the internet type interactions.
Oh no! Anyway…
and he genuinely thinks that everyone else is the same way.
He asked ChatGPT if everyone else is dependent on AI, and it said yes.
The worst is hes on the “right side of history” there. Pretty much every boss in every company in every industry seems to go “lets go AI yeah bwoi”.
Another senior software dev here with nearly 20 years experience. I have never needed or used these tools. Cuz fuckem, that’s why.
Reviewing large AI PRs is the worst. I think being verbose is a good thing through function and variable naming, and comments for head scratching bits of cose, but AI can take it to an extreme degree with comments everywhere. Reading and critequing/discussing code and patterns used to be one of my favorite parts of the job.
My coworker who’s fully in bed with AI barely understood the code he wrote before, but asking him a question now is just an indirect means of using Claude. It has gotten to the point where I’m writing my PR comments more in the style of a prompt because it’s obvious he just pastes them in to Claude anyway.
One thing worse than AI PRs is AI bug reports.
One is a user that experiences a symptom that could be described in a quick copy/paste with maybe a sentence. Instead they have “AI” dig in and generate a dissertation on what it thinks is the issue and the original issue is lost in the AI diagnosis. Since the user doesn’t even have it wired up to actually test the hypothosis, it is just the AI first guess, which is frequently wrong. Wasting my time and failing to provide data.
The other is someone letting AI run over code and report “bugs” as in “it disagreed on some detail in the code, even though no person has actually experienced misbehavior, nor is the particular issue a security issue, but it might be an issue that some person one day eventually might hit”.
But I totally feel the coworker that had questionable code before that is now just utterly hopeless thanks to AI. I have nothing to do with his project but occasionally got called in to figure out and explain why his code would flip out. It hasn’t passed test in over a month as it’s now eternally buggy. Any attempt he makes to fix bugs inevitably lands with more bugs. But it’s too far now, he can’t turn back (CodeGen rewrote his codebase in a language he can’t follow, so he can’t hand edit, and he’s too afraid to roll back to when he almost understood his code). Hilarious one time within a week where he reported he could work on his project no more because he had exhausted his tokens, and without the tokens he can’t do anything anymore. Framed this as a failure of management to fund his needs adequately.
I have been shocked at just how many people, people long in the business seem to actively hate writing code. How much additional work they are willing to go through to claim victory in development through prose. Spending hours trying to get CodeGen to fix a trivial CSS issue in a web page that would have taken less than a minute if they just hit f12 and looked at the offending element. I can’t fathom how they could stand their careers for sometimes two decades before CodeGen came available if they hated it just so much.
Most developers reported AI made their productivity worse.
Out of the few that said AI made their productivity better, most of them couldn’t code.
Out of the few that said AI made their productivity better, most of them couldn’t code.
Note this point makes business leaders so excited. They hear “cheap labor can be productive”. Missing the point that the output is supremely dubious. They are “productive” because they don’t even know if the result is good or not, and so they can accept what is handed to them.
Currently, have a feature I thought we should have done, but management said one of the sales reps vibed up the answer, so we don’t need to do it. I used it and pointed out that the result was actually incorrect, but management thinks I’m just some luddite because they can’t understand the nature of the problems either.
Took me quite a few years to realize: when looking at usefulness of AI, I think in terms of “does it help me do my work better”. A lot of other people only think of “does it help to spew out more <whatever. lines of code? bug fixes? releases?>”
I guess nobody did any work a few years back when AI wasn’t being shoved down our throats. Also imagine being a carpenter or an electrician and being asked if you can get through your entire workday without AI. That guy is such an idiot is makes my head hurt.
Seriously - the AI bubble is very recent. Pretending like no one can possibly remember how they functioned before AI was being used everywhere is asinine.
He’s telling on himself. He doesn’t actually know how to do anything and he never did. He’s terrified of losing a.i. because there’s nothing for him to go back to
These addicts can’t remember how to function without LLMs. They’ve destroyed their brains.
Your second point was where my mind immediately went. I have never used AI at work and have no way to use AI at work even if I wanted to, because I don’t use a computer for work. Even if I was a massive AI supporter, I’d still see exactly zero difference at work.
Exactly. I’m a professional, but I use AI in my work now. It makes things easier and faster (by digging though logs for 24 hours and whatnot), but I did that before.
Sure I’d be able to do my job just the same, but getting paged at 2am, I’d have to spend 45 mins figuring out what to do (clicking links, waiting for page loads, parsing 2000 log lines, etc) while AI does it in just 5-10mins. I get to focus on my actual work instead of the bullshit oncall alarms.
I hate the environmental impact, but those that know how to use it and program it are actually benefiting from it.
The environmental impact can be discussed. Maybe training Kimi 2.7 is like sending a rocket to the moon. But using it locally can be optimized and then is as much as running your GPU. Arguably the impact is similar to gaming then.
(I know this is an unpopular opinion because it reads as defending oligarchs. Sorry!)
I can’t exactly remember the one time I used AI (probably two years ago or of curiosity) I can remember the last time I worked without AI (every day since then).
Seriously. What were these people doing like two years ago and what are they doing now that is different? Everyone in my office that uses a lo of AI is just doing it because they are lazy and don’t care that their work product is shit because it was shit anyway.
this dude is literally this meme:
To this guy who very likely will never see this comment:
I get through my day without using an LLM quite nicely. In fact, I don’t use ChatGPT or any other form of generative garbage at all. Ever.
Me too and I’m in IT
Same and same.
IT, huh? You know Musk is gonna forcibly hook you up to Neuralink and hack your brain to train AI, don’t you? Then he’ll transplant it into an Optimus robot, so you’ll never be able to fold laundry again! And you’ll fall over a lot!
I work as a software engineer and I don’t use any of those things… so yea… if I can do it, most people, the overwhelming majority of people can do it.
I’m forced to for work but I could happily go back if it all disappeared.
In fact I wish it would.
If by “forced” you mean they reprimand you for not spending enough tokens, do I have a project for you https://github.com/dtnewman/burn-baby-burn.git
Oh I’m using that.
Jesus Christ that’s cynical.
But if it disappeared, how will all those middle managements write all those hundreds of TPS reports that nobody reads?
Or send automated posts of gibberish and feel productive?!?!?
The recipient of the report probably uses A.I. to summarise it. So all the useless reports are actually an indirect and inefficient communication mechanism between different A.I. instances. Maybe we should cut out the middle man(ager)
I envy you. The company i work at fully embraced ai …
My boss said it out loud yesterday: you know guys, i don’t really depend on you anymore.
He must have wet dreams about developing software for a customer, without having to pay some stupid developers for it.
My boss said it out loud yesterday: you know guys, i don’t really depend on you anymore.
As a poor soul who’s trying to refactor a fully vibe-coded project (in prod BTW) into something half-decent: hahahahahahahah
Sounds like he and AI deserve each other, and he should probably just start a new company with just him and AI to do all the work without those inefficient employees. In fact, he should ask AI if it’s a good idea. If there’s anything he’s unsure about, AI could reassure him to go for it.
Sis fr, I’m a freelancer music producer and I’ve seen my demand fall into the ground, a horrific free fall to the darkest of the bottomless gaps… All that while they just use and praise music that sounds all like if it were just chops from the same giant shitty song.
And the ones who can’t do it are actually just stupid and inept folks that barely can read and they still stutter.
This is partly what’s been said in this thread (from my skimming of the top 10 comments) but also because a lot of people are so fucking dumb that AI has been like Neo in the Matrix for them. They are so dumb that using basic words to search and filtering through the results seems like black magic. Now they feel empowered and smart. It’s extremely fucking scary.
I only read the top 10 comments because I have taken my sleep medication and it’s starting to win the fight ATM. Just needed to get this out before it was too late.
Sleep tight!
