Previous attempts did not have a majority of Democrats in either the house or the Senate, so it wouldn’t have mattered anyway. The Republicans will do anything to protect their own, even if it’s a felonious child molester rapist traitor— which it was and it is.
If the Democrats take back the house, which is pretty much certain at this point, and manage to also take a majority of the Senate, which is a distinct possibility, then they could actually both impeach and remove him from office.
Thusly, the conditions are much different now, or will be soon, allowing for actual meaningful change.
Then the question becomes: with President JD Vance with a vice president Mike Johnson actually be worse than Trump? Because that is a very real possibility. It might be better to severely censure President Trump and strip him of all power rather than to impeach and remove him from office. At least he’s a known quantity that can be contained with a Congress that actually uses its power. President JD Vance could turn out to be far worse than Trump because he’s not insane. And he’s actually far more evil than Trump.
How well have previous attempts gone?
Previous attempts did not have a majority of Democrats in either the house or the Senate, so it wouldn’t have mattered anyway. The Republicans will do anything to protect their own, even if it’s a felonious child molester rapist traitor— which it was and it is.
If the Democrats take back the house, which is pretty much certain at this point, and manage to also take a majority of the Senate, which is a distinct possibility, then they could actually both impeach and remove him from office.
Thusly, the conditions are much different now, or will be soon, allowing for actual meaningful change.
Then the question becomes: with President JD Vance with a vice president Mike Johnson actually be worse than Trump? Because that is a very real possibility. It might be better to severely censure President Trump and strip him of all power rather than to impeach and remove him from office. At least he’s a known quantity that can be contained with a Congress that actually uses its power. President JD Vance could turn out to be far worse than Trump because he’s not insane. And he’s actually far more evil than Trump.
There will not be sufficient votes in the Senate for removal.
We will see…
I get where you’re coming from, and my own soul feels very crushed as well after two failed previous attempts, but no one can foresee the future
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I have hope. Enough to see me through the dark times, but not so much as to drive me insane. Therein lies the key.
It requires a supermajority in the Senate. Which will not exist. I’m all for hope, but there has to be some actual chance, which there is not.
I’m not saying you’re wrong…
I’m just saying that I’m a lot more optimistic than you are
Perhaps we could resume this conversation in a month or so?