"The people stealing from Americans are not folks with tattoos and hoodies—it's people wearing suits and ties and congressional pins, sitting in this Capitol right now," said Rep. Maxwell Frost.
Let people wonder whether you’re dumb or not. Don’t prove to them that you are.
Biden was one of, if not the most progressive president, in our lifetimes. That is a FACT.
But of course you don’t know that.
The Democrats fumbled appealing to progressives, independents, and undecided voters.
By running on universal healthcare and taxing the rich? No, Republicans ran the most effective propaganda campaign in the history of this country (with the help of Russian disinformation) and it worked, because Americans are braindead stupid.
The percentage of people who don’t vote hasn’t changed much in 100 years. Call them lazy, uneducated, apathetic, etc, it makes no difference. They don’t vote and that’s all there is to be said about it. If you’re waiting around for them to start voting for your preferred candidate you’re going to be waiting for the rest of your life. Stop talking about them and start making other plans.
There is plenty of discussion how this last election people didn’t move rightwards, they moved couchwards. The absolute numbers voting for president went down substantially. I bet a good number of those were protest non voters.
And it swung the 2020 election. Biden still holds the record for the most votes of any president ever, Trump was number 2 for the most votes ever in that same election.
You cannot swing for the center and hope to flip some republicans. They vote on a single issue, and that issue is usually, “who will hurt the people I hate most”. They like to play it off as “Fiscally republican” or some other shit, but it’s all lies and falls apart if you pull on the threads of their reasoning.
Yeah maybe its the job of the politicians to go out and get peoples votes and listen to what they’re concerned about rather than just sitting there saying well you have to vote for us cuz that guys worse
They ran on universal healthcare and taxing the rich. Their sitting president was one of, if not the most, progressive president in our lifetimes with a strong economic recovery record. They even listened when their base told them Biden was too old and gave them a younger candidate.
Just admit that the dumbfucks that voted 3rd party or didn’t vote were single issue losers who couldn’t see the forest for the trees and now we have fascism in America.
Funny how Biden brought up price gouging but then never acted on it
Funny how they brought up corporations buying elections and then never acted on it.
Funny how they could have enshrined abortion or medicaid into law and decided not to because they couldn’t even get their own house together to vote for it because they’re all paid for by corporations and Israel.
Funny how they couldn’t do the basic moral thing and not finance fully a genocide.
Funny how they didnt reach across to any left leaning voters but instead paraded around a family of genocidaires. Funny how they kept leaping to the right instead of even trying to stay as a democratic party.
Funny how they’ve rigged their own elections since Obama in 08.
They were quite literally funding a genocide and then somehow thought pointing out [the very real] fascist intent of the Republican plans would play in their favor.
Edit: it seems none of you have understood my point.
At no point did I say Republicans were not also backing genocide. Only that, maybe, just maybe, Democrats could have NOT done so, to give people an actual choice on that issue.
I understand you prefer binary arguments where saying one bad thing about someone automatically means the opponent has to be good on that topic, but the world doesn’t work like that.
Only that, maybe, just maybe, Democrats could have NOT done so
Like, do you not grasp that international relations is a thing?
Do you not fathom that when an important ally, the most important in the Middle East, ramps up a conflict they’ve had with another nation for our entire lives, that it’s not exactly a simple subject? That you can’t just say “Welp, you’re being mean to someone else, so fuck you our relationship is over”?
Biden repeatedly spoke out against Netanyahu’s tactics. He started threatening to hold up arms shipments and impose sanctions. These are the proper steps to take before resorting to losing one of your most important allies.
Then Americans chose fascism and now the situation is much worse.
Dude they want to nuke Gaza, while Biden was pushing for peace. But to you it’s all the same and “b b b b both sides same”. This is why you project “you prefer binary arguments”. Ciao.
They literally refuse to admit that an entire apparatus of a party wanting something, and then a handful of members wanting something of another party are not the same.
Then they have the gall to complain that the democrats didn’t personally promise them a pony and a unicorn so they didn’t vote.
Not “Biden’s Genocide”. Israel was bombing Gaza before we sent a DIME of aid and they will continue with or without us until someone forces them to stop.
If you are going to spread propaganda with no citation; I’m spreading fact WITH citation regarding the truth of what the MAGA are hiding and trying to distract from:
The average American spends way more in prescriptions vs other countries
And now thankfully Trump has stopped the genocide, oh wait he accelerated it.
With Kamala there was a chance things would have changed. The dems were at least applying pressure to Israel to find a resolution. I have plenty of criticisms and am pissed we spent tax dollars arming Israel.
However, now our government is enthusiastically supporting the elimination of Gaza. So yeah that didn’t pan out
My point was maybe Democrats could have differentiated themselves a bit better by NOT BACKING A GENOCIDE like the Republicans were very willing to do.
People stayed home because the choice between some genocide and genocide isn’t a compelling one. But democratic leadership is bought and paid for by AIPAC
My point was maybe Democrats could have differentiated themselves a bit better by NOT BACKING A GENOCIDE like the Republicans were very willing to do.
Maybe Americans had a responsibility to prevent fascists who were very open about their fascism from taking total control of our government and accelerating the genocide in Gaza.
Nah, let’s place all the blame on Democrats instead of Americans. It’s easier.
Sure, Israel was also a long time ally who suffered a brutal terrorist attack in October. Maybe geopolitics is more complex that “Biden is commiting a genocide!!1!”.
Before you get too out to touch, I’ll say that any aid to Israel should have been conditional, and we should have stationed Americans relief workers in refugee camps and safe zones to stop Israel from indiscriminately bombing them.
“Queermunist”, implying you are both queer and communist.
Mate you… you know you are the first group of people the turd wants to get rid of?
You deserve what’s coming for you, because you are the one asking for it, so when they come for you (because, unless there’s a very significant change, it’s not an if but a when), remember that you voted for it.
Did I say I was fine with this? I just believe we can do things other than wait for the next election to stop it from happening. Get organized, get a gun, and get ready.
Are you going to act? Or are you going to sit on your ass and wait for another election that is never going to come?
Because if you’re waiting for the next election to stop fascism you are going to lose.
I live in a red state, my vote doesn’t even fucking count in this shit hole country.
Don’t be so modest, you’re excited for me to get murdered for being disobedient. That’s why you won’t lift a finger to resist fascism. Voting is the limit of your participation in politics and you aren’t going to be allowed to vote fascist away.
I won’t be surprised when volunteer to be one of the camp guards because you think you can change the system from the inside.
I’m not even american. And every time I can vote, I do against fascism. Because if I have to choose between a literal nazi and someone who’s imperfect but it’s not a nazi, I kinda prefer to be governed by the one that’s not a nazi.
And since we are talking about genocide: remember that the turd YOU helped putting in the white house is allowing the zionazi to run wild and even think of annexing Gaza (after “cleansing” it).
Yeah, he personally turned 26487 children into various meat products for the whit house barbecue. He’s a surprisingly good chef, though. Those spare ribs were the best I ever had.
He personally ensured Israel had the bombs and international legal protection necessary to murder all those children. He did everything he could to guarantee those children died in twisted shieking agony. In fact, many of them did burn to death and he his personally responsible for cooking them alive.
Let me put it this way: I don’t feel like I deserve to live anymore for my role in the genocide.
Yes. Because our 2 options were a fascist, and a Liberal. Liberals may suck, but they can be worked with, and reasoned with. Fascists don’t have that perk.
Liberals are just fascists with better PR. They absolutely cannot be reasoned with, as evidenced by the democrats being exactly as complicit in the genocide as the republicans. No reasoning has managed to convince that party that Palestine deserves to exist.
Just admit what you really mean:
“The democrats may be just as genocidal outside of our country, but at least they’re not genociding inside our country like the republicans would”.
Or, put simply, “the democrats are evil in a way that doesn’t impact me”.
Can you type more stupid clown comments so I can put them on my Wall of Stupid Clown Comments?
democrats being exactly as complicit in the genocide as the republicans
Weird. I remember Biden repeatedly expressing that he didn’t like Netanyahu’s tactics, then threatening to stop arms shipments and impose sanctions. I also remember Trump regularly fellating Netanyahu and saying he wants to kick Palestinians out to build a fucking resort.
Herp derp, both duh same.
but at least they’re not genociding inside our country like the republicans would”.
Yeah, I would actually very much prefer a party that doesn’t genocide in our own country. That sounds way preferential than genocide in our country.
Hard to “fall” for something that isn’t there. You’re just making the statement that Liberals=Fascists, when you’re factually wrong. Please go to any Poli-sci course, and you will learn. Alternatively, you could just not comment when you’re uninformed. Sorry to hear about your TBE.
Because Joe “nothing would fundamentally change” Biden was so progressive.
Hope none of your family died in the years before Trump like the hundreds of thousands of others who die each year from easily fixable causes but weren’t because they lived in status quo America.
Quick question, do you in any way shape or form hold the Democratic party responsible for their performance at the polls?
Because Joe “nothing would fundamentally change” Biden was so progressive.
Are you stupid? His legislation was VERY progressive. Guy was even the first president IN HISTORY to forgive student loans and to stand on a picket line with striking workers.
do you in any way shape or form hold the Democratic party responsible for their performance at the polls?
Yes, but not even close to as responsible as I hold American voters for failing their civic duty.
How many billions of dollars in student loan debt did Biden cancel? How much more would have been cancelled if the supreme court didn’t act in a blatantly partisan manner?
Yeah, I do hold them responsible. Shumer shouldn’t be in leadership and AOC should be on every high profile committee there is.
Not voting solves nothing. You know how you get more progressive legislation passed? By voting for the party that has progressives in it. That’s how. More democrats means more people like AOC. It doesn’t fucking matter if your personal rep is a god damned blue dog if it means there’s one less republican in congress.
This shit is so fucking lazy.
Biden enacted plenty of progressive asks during his term. Harris outlined plenty of progressive asks in her campaign as well.
Just because it wasn’t 100% of what YOU personally wanted doesn’t mean it wasn’t good legislation.
Hope none of your family dies because of this, because if they do it’s on you, mr protest voter.
Biden? Progressive? lol that’s funny
The Democrats fumbled appealing to progressives, independents, and undecided voters. That’s a lot more that just one guy you are responding to
Can I give you a pro life tip?
Let people wonder whether you’re dumb or not. Don’t prove to them that you are.
Biden was one of, if not the most progressive president, in our lifetimes. That is a FACT.
But of course you don’t know that.
By running on universal healthcare and taxing the rich? No, Republicans ran the most effective propaganda campaign in the history of this country (with the help of Russian disinformation) and it worked, because Americans are braindead stupid.
The percentage of people who don’t vote hasn’t changed much in 100 years. Call them lazy, uneducated, apathetic, etc, it makes no difference. They don’t vote and that’s all there is to be said about it. If you’re waiting around for them to start voting for your preferred candidate you’re going to be waiting for the rest of your life. Stop talking about them and start making other plans.
There is plenty of discussion how this last election people didn’t move rightwards, they moved couchwards. The absolute numbers voting for president went down substantially. I bet a good number of those were protest non voters.
The difference in non-voters between 2020 and 2024 was enough to swing the election.
And it swung the 2020 election. Biden still holds the record for the most votes of any president ever, Trump was number 2 for the most votes ever in that same election.
You cannot swing for the center and hope to flip some republicans. They vote on a single issue, and that issue is usually, “who will hurt the people I hate most”. They like to play it off as “Fiscally republican” or some other shit, but it’s all lies and falls apart if you pull on the threads of their reasoning.
Yeah maybe its the job of the politicians to go out and get peoples votes and listen to what they’re concerned about rather than just sitting there saying well you have to vote for us cuz that guys worse
If you’re so entitled you need to be personally courted to stand up against fascism then Idk what to tell you.
They ran on universal healthcare and taxing the rich. Their sitting president was one of, if not the most, progressive president in our lifetimes with a strong economic recovery record. They even listened when their base told them Biden was too old and gave them a younger candidate.
Just admit that the dumbfucks that voted 3rd party or didn’t vote were single issue losers who couldn’t see the forest for the trees and now we have fascism in America.
Like another plan like move out of the country to somewhere smart ?
so only non voters and MAGATS are left behind to shoot them selves in the foot
I think they are already doing that.
Funny how Biden brought up price gouging but then never acted on it
Funny how they brought up corporations buying elections and then never acted on it.
Funny how they could have enshrined abortion or medicaid into law and decided not to because they couldn’t even get their own house together to vote for it because they’re all paid for by corporations and Israel.
Funny how they couldn’t do the basic moral thing and not finance fully a genocide.
Funny how they didnt reach across to any left leaning voters but instead paraded around a family of genocidaires. Funny how they kept leaping to the right instead of even trying to stay as a democratic party.
Funny how they’ve rigged their own elections since Obama in 08.
Funny how you have no citations but still spread misinformation around.
Here are some facts with citations :
More drugs are coming from the US to Canada. Not the other way around.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-complaints-drugs-guns-border-1.7457605
They were quite literally funding a genocide and then somehow thought pointing out [the very real] fascist intent of the Republican plans would play in their favor.
Edit: it seems none of you have understood my point.
You mean this? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/republican-congressperson-wants-to-nuke-gaza-into-surrender/ar-AA1FiCdJ Sorry that’s the GOP.
At no point did I say Republicans were not also backing genocide. Only that, maybe, just maybe, Democrats could have NOT done so, to give people an actual choice on that issue.
I understand you prefer binary arguments where saying one bad thing about someone automatically means the opponent has to be good on that topic, but the world doesn’t work like that.
Like, do you not grasp that international relations is a thing?
Do you not fathom that when an important ally, the most important in the Middle East, ramps up a conflict they’ve had with another nation for our entire lives, that it’s not exactly a simple subject? That you can’t just say “Welp, you’re being mean to someone else, so fuck you our relationship is over”?
Biden repeatedly spoke out against Netanyahu’s tactics. He started threatening to hold up arms shipments and impose sanctions. These are the proper steps to take before resorting to losing one of your most important allies.
Then Americans chose fascism and now the situation is much worse.
Dude they want to nuke Gaza, while Biden was pushing for peace. But to you it’s all the same and “b b b b both sides same”. This is why you project “you prefer binary arguments”. Ciao.
They literally refuse to admit that an entire apparatus of a party wanting something, and then a handful of members wanting something of another party are not the same.
Then they have the gall to complain that the democrats didn’t personally promise them a pony and a unicorn so they didn’t vote.
Oh no! Its not like the dems didnt drop the equivalent of 5 nuclear bombs on gaza anyway…
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Lol super weird attempt at “b b b both sides same”.
She also outlined a move to the right and lied about working super hard for a ceasefire
So tired of people pretending the Dems weren’t a horrific choice in 24, likely on purpose to give repubs their turn
You have 2 fucking choices. Sitting out means you have no right to complain, because you supported the worst side.
Yeah, way worse than literal fascism.
Lol. Do you still wear your clown nose when you’re at home alone? 🤡
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Not “Biden’s Genocide”. Israel was bombing Gaza before we sent a DIME of aid and they will continue with or without us until someone forces them to stop.
If you are going to spread propaganda with no citation; I’m spreading fact WITH citation regarding the truth of what the MAGA are hiding and trying to distract from:
The average American spends way more in prescriptions vs other countries
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/how-do-prescription-drug-costs-in-the-united-states-compare-to-other-countries/#Prices of select prescription drugs in the United States and for comparable countries, 2017
I’ll take “Clown Takes” for $500, Alex.
Enjoy that moral superiority when ICE comes and takes you away.
Source?
Biden butchered children by the tens of thousands. I want to fucking die because I voted for that monster.
Take your clown nonsense elsewhere, clown. 🤡
Huh, I had no idea Biden was Prime Minister of Israel. I’d always heard it was that Netanyahu guy.
…he gave him the weapons. And kept giving them after knowing what was happening…
And now thankfully Trump has stopped the genocide, oh wait he accelerated it.
With Kamala there was a chance things would have changed. The dems were at least applying pressure to Israel to find a resolution. I have plenty of criticisms and am pissed we spent tax dollars arming Israel.
However, now our government is enthusiastically supporting the elimination of Gaza. So yeah that didn’t pan out
My point was maybe Democrats could have differentiated themselves a bit better by NOT BACKING A GENOCIDE like the Republicans were very willing to do.
People stayed home because the choice between some genocide and genocide isn’t a compelling one. But democratic leadership is bought and paid for by AIPAC
Who wanted a ceasefire? Harris.
Who wants to nuke Gaza. Republicans.
You: They’re both the same, I’m gonna stand in the corner and not stop the nuking of Gaza.
Maybe Americans had a responsibility to prevent fascists who were very open about their fascism from taking total control of our government and accelerating the genocide in Gaza.
Nah, let’s place all the blame on Democrats instead of Americans. It’s easier.
Sure, Israel was also a long time ally who suffered a brutal terrorist attack in October. Maybe geopolitics is more complex that “Biden is commiting a genocide!!1!”.
Before you get too out to touch, I’ll say that any aid to Israel should have been conditional, and we should have stationed Americans relief workers in refugee camps and safe zones to stop Israel from indiscriminately bombing them.
lol the weird Facebook propaganda gets weirder by the day.
Oh well, since you’re spreading propaganda: I’m gonna counter with facts that US MAGA are hiding from the general public :
Because Canada hasn’t made abortion illegal: it has had lower rates of abortion among population comparison
https://www.arcc-cdac.ca/media/position-papers/54-US-Canada-Abortion-Law-Policy.pdf
Go back to Reddit.
To huff your own farts, bot.
Ps: to offset your fake bullshit propaganda: I’m gonna expose some truth:
US pays 10 X for insulin on what Canada buys it at.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/cost-of-insulin-by-country
Do… Do you think I’m pro-US?
I hate this demon shit hole country.
Clearly I’m a Russian agent sent to sow dissent on this underwater basket weaving forum. 🙄
Please tell me how Trump is any measure in comparison to Biden, go ahead, I’ll wait, you’re so full of shit. It’s leaking out your ears.
“Queermunist”, implying you are both queer and communist.
Mate you… you know you are the first group of people the turd wants to get rid of?
You deserve what’s coming for you, because you are the one asking for it, so when they come for you (because, unless there’s a very significant change, it’s not an if but a when), remember that you voted for it.
Imagine telling a minority “you deserve to be killed by fascists because you didn’t vote for my preferred candidate.”
It’s like they say! Scratch a liberal…
It’s not like “they” say. It’s what idiots say.
Imagine telling someone you’re fine with queer people being killed at home, because you’re so entitled that you sat out to defend those people.
Did I say I was fine with this? I just believe we can do things other than wait for the next election to stop it from happening. Get organized, get a gun, and get ready.
Are you going to act? Or are you going to sit on your ass and wait for another election that is never going to come?
Because if you’re waiting for the next election to stop fascism you are going to lose.
There’s this nice little thing called OPSEC and talking about such things just makes you a target.
It’s called self preservation and acknowledging that America’s voting system is fundamentally flawed. You vote for harm reduction not perfection.
It’s easier to fight against the genocide in Israel when you’re not under a fascist government in your own country
I refuse to choose genocide for self preservation.
In fact, I kind of want to die just for my role as a passive participant in the genocide. I think about Aaron Bushnell a lot.
Then you’ll get fascism at home. And did.
You sound like kind of a fool.
So by not wanting to be complicit in one genocide you allowed fascism to rise and now are unwilling complicit in more crimes against humanity.
Harm reduction is a simple concept
Imagine being part of a minority that a president has vowed to hunt and actively or passively help that president come to power so he can hunt you.
I live in a red state, my vote doesn’t even fucking count in this shit hole country.
Don’t be so modest, you’re excited for me to get murdered for being disobedient. That’s why you won’t lift a finger to resist fascism. Voting is the limit of your participation in politics and you aren’t going to be allowed to vote fascist away.
I won’t be surprised when volunteer to be one of the camp guards because you think you can change the system from the inside.
I’m not even american. And every time I can vote, I do against fascism. Because if I have to choose between a literal nazi and someone who’s imperfect but it’s not a nazi, I kinda prefer to be governed by the one that’s not a nazi.
And since we are talking about genocide: remember that the turd YOU helped putting in the white house is allowing the zionazi to run wild and even think of annexing Gaza (after “cleansing” it).
Loser attitude.
Whiny bitch attitude.
We voted against it, dipshit. Stop trying to goad others into taking physical action when you’re too much of a pussy to do it yourself.
Stop typing. The more you type, the more of a fool you make yourself out to be.
Yeah, he personally turned 26487 children into various meat products for the whit house barbecue. He’s a surprisingly good chef, though. Those spare ribs were the best I ever had.
He personally ensured Israel had the bombs and international legal protection necessary to murder all those children. He did everything he could to guarantee those children died in twisted shieking agony. In fact, many of them did burn to death and he his personally responsible for cooking them alive.
Let me put it this way: I don’t feel like I deserve to live anymore for my role in the genocide.
Do you feel innocent?
You’re the whiniest drama queen I’ve come across so far on Lemmy.
Yes. Because our 2 options were a fascist, and a Liberal. Liberals may suck, but they can be worked with, and reasoned with. Fascists don’t have that perk.
Liberals are just fascists with better PR. They absolutely cannot be reasoned with, as evidenced by the democrats being exactly as complicit in the genocide as the republicans. No reasoning has managed to convince that party that Palestine deserves to exist.
Just admit what you really mean:
“The democrats may be just as genocidal outside of our country, but at least they’re not genociding inside our country like the republicans would”.
Or, put simply, “the democrats are evil in a way that doesn’t impact me”.
Can you type more stupid clown comments so I can put them on my Wall of Stupid Clown Comments?
Weird. I remember Biden repeatedly expressing that he didn’t like Netanyahu’s tactics, then threatening to stop arms shipments and impose sanctions. I also remember Trump regularly fellating Netanyahu and saying he wants to kick Palestinians out to build a fucking resort.
Herp derp, both duh same.
Yeah, I would actually very much prefer a party that doesn’t genocide in our own country. That sounds way preferential than genocide in our country.
You’re not very smart, are you?
Smart enough to not fall for such an obvious deflection, at any rate.
Hard to “fall” for something that isn’t there. You’re just making the statement that Liberals=Fascists, when you’re factually wrong. Please go to any Poli-sci course, and you will learn. Alternatively, you could just not comment when you’re uninformed. Sorry to hear about your TBE.
Well aren’t you mentally insane…dude go see a psychiatrist.
Do you dispute that the US armed Israel for their genocide?
Did I say otherwise? You fucking morons can’t read eh?
So, what was so insane? Feeling guilty over contributing to it?
Because Joe “nothing would fundamentally change” Biden was so progressive.
Hope none of your family died in the years before Trump like the hundreds of thousands of others who die each year from easily fixable causes but weren’t because they lived in status quo America.
Quick question, do you in any way shape or form hold the Democratic party responsible for their performance at the polls?
Are you stupid? His legislation was VERY progressive. Guy was even the first president IN HISTORY to forgive student loans and to stand on a picket line with striking workers.
Yes, but not even close to as responsible as I hold American voters for failing their civic duty.
How many billions of dollars in student loan debt did Biden cancel? How much more would have been cancelled if the supreme court didn’t act in a blatantly partisan manner?
Yeah, I do hold them responsible. Shumer shouldn’t be in leadership and AOC should be on every high profile committee there is.
Not voting solves nothing. You know how you get more progressive legislation passed? By voting for the party that has progressives in it. That’s how. More democrats means more people like AOC. It doesn’t fucking matter if your personal rep is a god damned blue dog if it means there’s one less republican in congress.
How many billions in student loan debt did Biden create by helping establish the predatory student-loan system as it currently exists?
Oh so a person helps fix a problem they were part of, and for you that’s not enough.
God you people are so tiring.
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What the fuck are you talking about lol