To be fair, that’s what the Republicans say too. They just mean something very different by those words.
Neither side interprets the spoken words at face value. The moral difference is very much in the underlying ideology, not in these explicit words.
Meanwhile in California, over 50% of the population voted against taxing billionaires via Prop 40. I don’t understand that one at all. The fear mongering worked, I guess.
Yeah well the standard line they always trot out whenever anybody starts talking about taxing billionaires is the threat of the billionaires leaving. The thing is, if they were actually prepared to do that they wouldn’t spend all the money fighting it, they would just wait until it happened, and then leave.
Billionaires don’t really care about tax, it’s like the least expensive thing they spend money on in a year. They’ll quite happily spend 10,000 times as much on a yacht, it’s like asking an average earner if they would consider moving to get out of paying a 40 cent annual surcharge.
Yep, Billionaires are where they are. In general, they do not move when tax laws change (of all billionaires moving per year, only a single digit percentage can be brought in connection with wealth taxes)
Billionaires don’t really care about tax,
I think they do. Money going to tax is under public control and cannot be used to buy influence.
It’s just about power. Their influence comes from their wealth and paying taxes would mean giving power away.
Prop 40 is not a good way to tax billionaires. A wealth tax is extremely messy. To institute an entirely new approach to taxation would create years of accounting and legal headaches, and only help short term.
And it’s hard to overstate how shortsighted a single-time tax is.
Probably cause half the people currently sleeping in their car in Californian cities are worried how it’ll affect them eventually when they finally get their start-up off the ground and make their first billion
The very shallow take that taxing the rich will make them move somewhere else or hurt jobs. They are already hoarding the money and jobs are based on other factors. If the rich moved around based on taxes, they wouldn’t live in any western countries at all. Terkministan would be the prime destination. They live in places like California and New York because they like it there, otherwise North Dakota would be the new hotspot in the US.
The billionaires bought two fake propositions to cancel out 40, then they pushed endless ads about saying that your retirement, schools, hospitals, etc. woudl be destroyed by yes on 40, no on 41, no on 42.
AKA Capital and its state doing what the enslavers concocted it to do - violently defend their disgusting privilege at the expense of everybody else.
The violence in this case is the attack on healthcare, etc.
The RADICAL LEFT wants to create car-free zones for safer, greener and more accessible cities 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
I’ve heard soooo many conservatives saying that “both sides are bad” and yes, I will agree. Within reason both sides are bad, but in all honesty, only one side is protecting pedophiles, starting meaningless wars, and endangering the lives of other people just because of who they want to sleep with and the color of their skin and who they chose to worship.
They aren’t all conservatives saying both sides commit evil, in fact, that’s a very not conservative thing to believe.
The Democrats are also protecting pedophiles and have started wars and also still complicit in a genocide. They are fucking indistinguishable from outside of America.
When was this mythical version of the Democratic party that didn’t involve itself in imperialist wars? Obama it was Syria, Afghanistan, and Yemen, and deportations. Biden it was Gaza, Yemen, Lebanon and more deportations.
They are not our friends (at least they aren’t mine) even if they do this stuff less they are not to be supported.
Most Dems aren’t even going that far, they’re status quo lite.
This is unironically how the right sees Trump and his ilk though. Vividly remember a conversation between two family members when one said “why are people mad? He just wants to make America great again.”
Not sure the point I’m trying to make tbh. Just be careful with how we envision “our” candidates in our minds.
It took them awhile to realize Trump’s definition of “great” and “big beautiful” was for the 1%ers, but a dystopian hellscape for the 99%.
Won’t be waving a flag with their name on it like a buffoon, that’s for damn sure.
Once I get Talarico’s face tattooed on my chest and fly a “Talafreako” flag on the back of my truck every day and wear a “Time To Start Flipping Tables” hat to every Thanksgiving with my family for the next ten years then maybe we can have a cautionary conversation about idolizing politicians.
Esp if it’s a flag with the name of a pedo rapist on it.
Do you thibk his supporters don’t care about the rape allegations, or do they just not believe them?
He just wants to make America great again
That usually comes with a big qualifier “for the right people” and everyone just projects their idea of “right people” on that.
By that logic, vote for the Democrat who wants to make America even better. Yeah, they absolutely take him at his word (except when he’s calling them stupid or denigrating military personnel, etc) but don’t listen to people who have receipts.
This dangerous lunatic wants to give us universal healthcare and safe bike lanes to reduce traffic congestion!
I bet that freak doesn’t even beat his wife.
How dare he talk about non-white non-straigh-cis non-christians FREEDOMS.
/S
You’re looking to put countless insurance brokers, private health care workers and others out of a job while simultaneously decimating the automotive industry, and for what? A brighter, cleaner healthier future for your children?
You monsters.
Bike lanes??! Bicycles are too dangerous not to mention socialist! So many kids will die there won’t be any left to get shot at school!
He may even build a BIKE LANE!!
COMMIE BASTARD
Bike lanes suck.
They’re better than no bike infrastructure at all, but they’re still suck city compared to dedicated bike paths with physical barriers between cyclists/cars and even cyclists/pedestrians.
Fuck. Don’t tell me those commie Demoncrats voted you into office too???
I’d build those gosh darned commie railways, reduce roads* by a lane to make real dedicated bikeways and build euro style 4-5 story apartment blocks with retail on the ground floor and make it all walkable!
muahahahahah!
* Roads being Roads, not Streets or Highways.
BE GONE SATAN🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️
THE BIBLE THUS SAYSITH JESUS SHALL RETURN ON THE BACK OF ADODGE RAM
For someone named lane, you seem awfully anti lane…
Also, yes please to all of your filthy commie ideas.
Unfortunately you’d have to solve the wage theft problem first unless you want only execs and the yuppiest yuppies living there. They were making similar plans in a not so terribly lefty city, to tear down a few neighborhoods and some not even old office buildings to build something similar. It wasn’t for any utopian plan, but to further gentrify a core part of the city and make the land owners and developers filthy rich. There was no option to be grandfathered in. They were just going to tell hundreds of families and businesses to fuck off if they couldn’t afford to move into where they already lived.
That’s a fair warning and a real shame.
Bring back public housing.
Yea, and preferably in a better way than the section 8 projects that immediately turned into slums of a slightly more vertical sort. It cannot entail simply shoving all the poors together with little other assistance.
they suck on stroads, yes. they’re mostly fine in tight downtown areas alongside a single vehicle lane.
I think most people refer to physically separated bike paths that share the same road surface as bike lanes. personally, I don’t really like completely separate bike paths (around here, most commonly multi use paths), because they’re not actually designed as infrastructure, but as recreation, so connections and directness are poor.
but, yes, just tossing in a bike lane is not the proper solution, it’s a bandaid on the way to a complete infrastructure replan. and fuck you Ontario for blocking them and ripping them out
Nuance? Here on reddi-?.. Wait, I can expect nuance here?
I’m actually impressed that the votes flip-flopped
Unprotected bike lanes are actually worse than nothing so yeah.
I miss living on the Toronto harbourfront and being able to bike an hour in either direction along the lake with very minimal interactions with cars…
the other day i watched a car slip into the bike lane for 100yards. good thing cyclists around here know better than to take the road.
Bike lanes suck.
You would say that, ms_lane
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I hate riding my bike on streets. I’m lucky my area has dedicated bike zones all along the main streets, separated by barriers. I wish more side streets had them, as well. I wish f’in everywhere had them.
Bike lanes are fine but also can we start ticketing bicyclists who fail basic road rule safety like blowing off stop signs and lights?
Sure, once they start murdering people at a rate similar to cars, we should enforce the laws on each group with equal vigor.
You may be interested in seeing a report of what happens when bicyclists do just that .
If bikes are violently forced to drive like cars against all reason, then car brians will be crying even louder while bicyclists are murdered at even higher rate.
Serious question: Imagine I’m sitting on my bike in front of your car at a red light. Which option would you prefer?
- We both follow the supposed “law”. - I wait until the light turns green. I slowly accelerate from a stop to 12mph. You ride my ass for a block, then we repeat at the next light.
- I follow the “law”. - You randomly run me over because of road rage or drunk or distracted or bad driver or fash terror or whatever.
- I break the “law”. - I run the red light. When you get the green light, I’m half of a block ahead of you. If you catch up with me, I dip onto the (empty) sidewalk so you (and any other cars) can pass, then I drop back into the street behind the traffic.
I take option 3 because it’s better for the cars and much much safer for me. Car laws don’t make sense for bikes. Car brains really have no idea what it’s like out there. Height of privileged mentality.
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They even want federal healthcare for everyone! What other evils will they impose on our society?
I wish they did
gestures wildly toward Australia’s Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme
We just call then pharmacy benefit managers in the US, and they have a special exemption to take kickbacks legally
PBS isn’t about kickbacks, it’s just lower price Medicine.
Trump specifically hates our PBS since it ‘hurts American pharmaceutical companies’ yet the actual US pharma companies love it, since it’s a reliable customer
You can see the prices we pay for medicines- https://www.pbs.gov.au/healthpro/explanatory-notes/front/fee
For most medicines in Australia, it’s $25, or $7.70 if you have a concession card (HCC/DVA Gold/RHCA), Pharmacies get a set dispense fee (unless it’s a dangerous medicine or needs to be compounded, which just add extra set fees) and the Pharma company gets a fixed negotiated amount paid from taxes.
They even want federal healthcare for everyone!
Imagine believing this.
This made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
Look at his LGBTQ tie and Islamic flower, what a leftist.
We all know that what socialists really want to do fascism, which is why we should always vote for fascists because I like honestly /s
omg and those terrorist cheek dots
Lets not treat politicians like well intentioned individual when lying to get into power is common.
Nono shhhhhh we voted in midterms, that’s aaaaaaall we have to do! Let’s not pretend like there’s a huge mass of republicans and morons that will be getting gaslit and manipulated even harder for the next two years, and there’s definitely not an even more important vote then that Dems will surely try to stuff some milquetoast candidate into!
Nonono, now is the time to celebrate and pretend things are fixed like a light switch being flipped!
Within 12 hours of polls closing, we see one of the biggest electoral smackdowns ever, and fucking Blexas. Dems don’t take power for a few months yet.
If you’re not a whiney pessimist, this is exactly the time to celebrate!
lol we’ll see how long the famously short American memory is… I’ve seen this song and dance many times before. Sad you clowns don’t understand how reality works.
Note how I never said this was a bad thing. I only implied everything that is glaringly obvious from history.
Well yeah, a safer children means harder time for Epstein and the gang
"CLEAN!? SAFE?!!? but how the fuck is that meant to generate profit for shareholders!?!
Nobody is giving me a brown envelope full of cash to build a new PARK
What a disaster for freedom and democracy"
