Schuck and Hakeem Doolittle aren’t going to do shit. That’s why they both need to go.
Do you fuckers understand that you can’t have affordability without accountability? How do you think we got to this point in the first place? From letting the billionaires fuck us over from every direction with impunity for decades.
They know that if they are successful in prosecution republicans for war crimes. Democrats would also be held accountable when they do war crimes
That would be prosecution, not persecution.
A good start would be releasing the Epstein files. It would take you about 10 minutes.
You forget there is more than one US President in the Epstein files.
Political suicide means nothing if one dies a martyr
If Schumer and Jeffries are put back in leadership roles you can just expect more of democrats fondling trumps Nazi pedophile nuts.
I’m starting to think “affordability” is just weasely shit for little administrative fixes.
I want to start hearing about massive trust busting and I want to hear talk about the income crisis and dismantling all the tools and methods that employers bring to bear to drive wages down.
In other words, I want to hear some language that is undeniably leftist about changing the structure of the economy, not bland phrases for tinkering around the edges.
Yas, preach
Centrists only use that word because it polls well. They stole it from Mamdami even though they hate him.
We have to get ahead and start actively making a case for socialism, or Republicans will keep having an edge in public debates.
But…. Blue wave!?
For those reading these threads where there’s always a few doomer anti-hope comments: I urge you to call out and block these entirely unhelpful commenters. If you notice, those asking us to abandon hope, even though there is reason for it, do not pair any “criticism” with a call to action. In cases where that happens, that is helpful and not what I’m calling out. Regardless of why doomers are spreading gloom or what they think that will accomplish, paying them any attention can only ever lead to inaction, mental anguish, and helping fascist ideas gain traction across the world. Perhaps if enough of us block these users, they’ll start to feel like their anti-hope messaging campaigns are futile.
Do NOT lose hope. For Americans: contact your state representatives, get active with progressive political organizations, and do everything you can to affect change.
Dont just “have hope”. Do something about it. Hope is often used as an excuse to wait for the status quo to solve your problems with no effoirt and we are way past that. No one is coming to help any of us. Not the Democratic partyt leadership for sure, unless we MAKE them. The time for this sort of anger was really before the midterm, but now is second best.
I would be cautious not to shut out opportunities to tell people there is a way to work for something better, but yes, particularly on the activism side, get busy participating with local progressive groups. We may not all have the money to buy our own politician, but working together a few hours and some helpful hands can go a long way.
It’s definitely started to feel like the doomers aren’t really here for dialog though.
I have him tagged as “echo chamber liberal.” I don’t remember the interaction that lead to that tag but I have seen him pop up several times since and every time he goes ahead and confirms it for me.
Way to stand up for the doomers. It “proves you right” that I’m all for an echo chamber even when I specifically say that criticism with a call to action is good. So we see which side you’re on. Thanks for confirmation of my tag for you also.
The audacity of telling me you have me tagged and not telling me what it is.
Doomers are an important part of reality. Bots and trolls not so much. It’s ok to be a doomer a lot of the time it’s a sober look at shit that people don’t have the will or capacity to see. I’ve been called a doomer so much that I bristle at the term because it’s a coping pajorative.
I disagree. Critics are important. Encouraging others to lose hope is a terrible and useless thing to do.
Lol. Good luck with that.
Jeffries and Schumer only say affordability because Mamdami used it successfully of his winning mayoral campaign. Jeffries even used it to say that his meeting with the corrupt criminal Kushner had a meeting with him about affordability.
On the Accountability thing, I think there is a subtle thing to understand here. While Republicans had the majority during the last half of the Bide administration, dingbats like Jim Jordan were using the power of Congressional committees to investigate things that the Administratio did that they didn’t like. There was no real legal basis for the investigations, other than some officials did things that hurt Conservative’s fragile egos.
Those investigations has two goals: one was to demoralize Federal officials, but the other was to be able to turn around later and accuse the other side of wielding Government as a weapon when they are in power, because they understand it can motivate their side to vote.
We al need to understand that this is the real reason why some Democrats seem tepid on this accountability thing, it’s because they think it might rile up the deplorables. But, I think it is important to note the key difference between now and prior Presidencies: the Trump administration constantly violates the law. All. The. Time.
I think if Democrats limit their investigations to obvious violates of the law over the past 2 years, they will have more than enough to look at. Simply asking why US citizens keep getting detained by ICE ought to lead to some ICE administrators going to jail, shouldn’t it?
Committee chairs for the next session of congress are already promising prosecutions.
If Democratic leadership is truly serious about a both approach, I think they should first start heavily and only with Epstein files and only branch out from there as things get major coverage for 2 major reasons:
First is that there’s MAJOR bipartisan support for this and will ultimately lead to isolating certain officials and supporters, giving Democrats the moral high ground in other branching investigations IF they can land convictions and legislation. I’d like to hope that there are at least a few Republicans who are disgusted with their party as a whole (ie Thomas Massie) and are being backed into a corner with campaign finances, and this could free a few votes for later bills or a Senate convictions/removals.
Secondly, i have zero doubt those investigations will lead to certain billionaires being questioned and potentially lead to actual trials and accountability. And if progressives play their questions right, could lead to a public outcry for more campaign finance AND News coverage reform.
Meanwhile, they should pass single issue, high polling bills like tariff reform and ending the Iran conflict. Then once some dust settles a bit and there’s the inevitable Epstein tie-in, publicly investigate corporate pricing/inflation.
You know thought out arguments like this don’t help the media get more clicks.
Obama had both Houses and it was an uphill fight to get the ACA passed.
Trump is going to veto everything.
Why are people acting like the Dems have absolute power?
the ACA was a republican created stop gap to hold up a failing system. the democrats then agreed to do it and not HFA because they are beholden to the same masters, and that’s when the republicans started to call it obama care, and stripped out nearly all consumer protections, and put a timer on the rest.
the dems were happy to capitulate to the right at each step.
But don’t forget that Obama and the rest of the Democrats and few progressives at the time did try to get a public option in with the ACA but was cockblocked by neo-liberal Joe Liberman.
i suppose the argument here is that there was a lone traitor as to the reason that the dems capitulated to the republicans like always. but that i feel is too charitable a take when we know they count their votes and choose the person to take the fall. shummer and jefferies follow the same tendencies, they just don’t like to be openly blamed for orchestrating their failures. at this point it’s irresponsible to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Why are you ignoring the basic numbers?
Trump can veto anything the Dems bring up.
How do you plan to get around that.
make him veto it. it’s not like they do any work over there anyway. the sheer amount of fuckery the republicans did without any power either A. ruined all democrat momentum, rendering them more then useless. or B. gave the dems cover to push rightward like they are instructed.
and why would you care? unless you are fighting against progressive movement?
there are a lot of people on here who are claiming to be “center” and always demanded the progressive base to “compromise” with hitler
So, I ask a question in good faith and get called Hitler?
Where did I say anything about compromising?
I asked for a plan and I get nothing.
Plenty of people voted for Obama twice, then voted for Trump three times, and then voted Blue in 2026.
i didn’t say you were like hitler, i said you would compromise with hitler
the kind of person who would vote for obama twice then vote for trump twice, and then vote for blue wave in the mid terms is a voter who is short sighted, and only interested in their own comfort over the lives of everyone else. great that their selfishness coincidentally aligned them selves with progressive ends. but you are not going to get sympathy from me for people who are so selfish. people pretending they have morals after being ate by the leapords is ridiculous
In true centrist Democrat fashion, when the going get tough, roll over and don’t try because it’s too hard.
So, nothing like an actual plan? No idea whatever? Nothing?
Ofcourse. The Dems are the party that pretends to care about the common people while helping the elites, while Reps just say it out loud. They’ll drag and make excuses as usual.
Exactly, but noticed how to two guys who want to lead the party only want to focus on affordability. With Trumps veto power it up hill battle. They definitely should still fight it. But if we don’t address the accountability part that they do have the power to address. Then we have no rule of law and Trump and co, and those in the shadows will see that they can do whatever the hell they want without consequences.
I don’t know… that starts to look an awful lot like work.
As some have already pointed out, some of these things are very much linked.
If you get accountability for launching a war on Iran because donnie is a goddamned idiot that hates Obama so much, well, that is related to affordability. Gas/diesel shot way up as a result, and that impacts the price of everything.
Same for the accountability of donnie throwing tariffs on everything.
More importantly, you don’t fix affordability, until you unwind corruption. That’s the Mandate Dems were elected on, breaking corruption’s death grip on the economy. If they fail to deal with the corruption, affordability isn’t going to get better.
And for fuck’s sake, as part of that own the anti-data center issue. It’s appalling to have that giant activating winner of an issue just hanging out there and no one in politics claiming it.
Do you want to afford your energy and not have your home that you can’t afford to leave become a living hell? Well let’s stop these assholes who have been shoveling money at Trump’s vanity projects from having free reign to do literally anything they want without accountability.
lol pick one. Fucking amerikkka
