• 8ender@lemmy.world
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    Schumer is goading Trump into keeping him. He knows Trump is too prideful to let a Democrat be right about something.

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        Plus any legal cases of you can’t change your nominee from Biden, weaken a lot if Dump switches his VP. Of course any case against not letting them switch out Biden is already dead in the water if heard by a rational non corrupt court… So nevermind actually

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    Hey, with all this talk of unity and how the Democrats should be picking a Republican to run on some kind of centrist wet-dream ticket, how about the “liberal media” starts beating the drum for donnie to kick JD off the ticket and add someone like AOC to the ticket?

    You know: for “unity”. For the tone - the Republicans should be utterly capitulating to the Democratic Party.

    Why does no one in the corporate media ever suggest it is the Republican Party that should cave to the leftist majority in this country, but instead, the reverse is something that comes up. All. The. Time.

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    I just headed over to /r/conservative to skim the posts.

    I’ll admit that it was a very shallow glance at what they’re thinking but it really doesn’t look like they’re as upset with Vance as liberals like to think they are.

    They’re not as smug as they were a few weeks ago but they’re still pretty comfortable with their poll numbers.

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      lol i’m guessing you haven’t spent much time in /r/conservative. which i don’t blame you for

      but the reason they don’t express dissatisfaction with anything going on in conservativeland is because you’ll get banned if you do

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      Plot twist, that’s who Trump was actually trying to get but there was a misunderstanding when he asked for “that guy with the fucking cushions”.

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      Hell yeah, that would be hilarious. Mike Lindell, the Jesse Ventura we have at home.

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        I feel like that’s kind of harsh, to you know, the former governor. What has Lindell accomplished other than quitting crack a couple times

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          And Jesse might have some legit ailments from the military. He’s gone a bit cuckoo, but can still remain coherent.

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    Replacing Vance now would also undermine any argument they might make about switching the names on ballots for the Democrats. Those aren’t valid, anyway–Biden wasn’t the official nominee until the convention says so; nothing was locked in–but they would now lose the possibility of using it rhetorically.

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      they would now lose the possibility of using it rhetorically.

      I think you’re over-estimating their commitment to logic, consistency or reality.

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        They don’t, but it also has to sink in with the general public. When both sides are being switched out, there’s a very obvious argument against the claim.

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          That makes sense but MAGA has always leaned hard on the “but when I do it, it’s OK” rhetoric.

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      Biden wasn’t the official nominee until the convention

      Even then, nothing prohibits him (or Vance, realistically) from resigning.

      This is mostly just funny to watch.

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        There is a legal point where states won’t accept changes to the ballots. Also a practical one where there isn’t time to print new ones. Neither point has passed, of course, but Trump was trying to imply it was.

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          If Biden died on November 4th, he’d remain on the ballot the next day and - if he won the majority of the EC - Harris would be the presumptive President Elect on November 6th. If Vance resigned as VP, we’d see the same results under a Trump win. We have a clear order of succession and mechanisms for appointing replacements to downticket slots like VP per the 25th amendment.

          The absolute worst case scenario is that Trump would force Vance to resign and then be stuck with a House/Senate picking his VP for him. But since he’s not even the President-Elect at the moment I don’t think that’s actually an issue.

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    Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies that can’t complete a coherent sentence is scared. He’s looking really bad, the dementia is really getting to him. He picked a VP that he forgot was openly talking shit about him and loves fucking couches. He needs to just drop out, it’s embarrassing.

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      I’m with you except for the fucking couches part. It was a joke someone on Twitter said that had no basis in reality (AP fact checked), and repeating it, knowing its not true, is the behavior of a bully.

      Call him a fascist because that’s what he is, not some made up insult with no basis in reality.

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        I’m actually fine with bullying fascists though. It’s not like theyre gonna take your civility as an example to follow, and if this bullying also messes up their plans then even better.

        Bullying fascists is already being civil tbh, its still far nicer than what they deserve

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          Then harass him for things he’s actually done! There are plenty of them. You weaken your argument against him by ignoring the valid criticisms and making up ridiculous ones.

          “Don’t they have any real criticism?!”

          Yes, we do! We have lots! Let’s use it.

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            I get what you’re saying but I’ve had quite enough of the high road. You realize as much as i that it doesn’t work. Not everything has to be a goldarn calculation. I can destroy their argument and then their ego. With any tool i care to use. If somehow a schoolyard rumor is the fuckin trick to crack their will to ruin my democracy ill use it, watch their lil faces twist, and ill sleep super sound at night.

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              So while I am amused by the whole gag, I would say it’s less about the “high” road and more about the fact that the “low” road may not work. Fox News was low-roading all over Obama, making up crap and trying to make a deal out of nothing. It never really impacted Obama’s popularity, as anyone vaguely on the fence saw it and said “ok, this is stupid, if that’s all Fox News can come up with, then I guess there’s nothing to find”.

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        I’ve yet to see him deny being a couch fucker and the AP retracted their correction when someone pointed out that they can’t prove he never fucked a couch. If this bullying causes him to leave the campaign, then it’s working as intended. Along with being a couch fucker, JD Vance is, like all Republicans, a spineless weasel obsessed with acquiring power any way he can.

        Is calling Vance a couch fucker any worse than Republicans alleging that Harris slept her way to the top?

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          Is calling Vance a couch fucker any worse than Republicans alleging that Harris slept her way to the top?

          No, it’s the same thing. Accusing people of things you know they didn’t do is the sign of an asshole. We should be better than that.

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            We should be better than that? We keep doing that. We keep taking it on the chin and taking the high road. The high road got us Dementia Don. I’m fine with throwing some of their shit right back at them. Does it make me an asshole? Honestly, I don’t care. I’m over the republikkklowns, and I’m ready for our country to progress again. Fuck that couch fucker and the elephant he rode in on. Fuck the Russians that are out spewing bullshit propaganda along with the assets they have that have managed to get elected. While I’m at it, FUCK anyone voting for them. You’re a piece of shit if you do, there is no argument, no defense.

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    I think everyone forgot how fast the Trump team rotated during his government (what was the name of that guy that lasted 10 days? Moochie?) in comparison to Biden’s government, where AFAIK, there’s haven’t been a lot of changes on his team.

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        Trump voters are unstable people looking to destabilize government. They don’t need to be reminded of that

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            Do you know anyone who is undecided? I don’t think there’s any left at this point but the media is always talking about them as if there are tons of them.

            I’m not downvoting you by the way.

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              Do you know anyone who is undecided?

              Do you know all 300 million Americans? Polls say there’s a large undecided amount. Statistically, a good third of the nation doesn’t care about politics at all, including whether fascists take over the country.

              We don’t know any people like this, because how goddamn ignorant do you have to be? To not care? We wouldn’t associate with people like that. But they exist and there’s a lot of them.

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      Anthony Scaramucci: My favorite slimeball. Saw the other CHUDs in the Trump administration and then bounced after eleven days after realizing that “the juice ain’t worth the squeeze”. I wouldn’t turn my back on him, but I would trust him over all other Trump world alumni since he has enough self preservation not to burn the world around him.

      Edit: He had an unhinged interview with a reporter and was dismissed a couple days after. Go listen to the audio; I’m laughing so god damn hard at it.

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    He’s trying to time it for immediately after Harris announces her VP pick. He wants to steal the news cycle from her.

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    Trump’s communications director, Steven Cheung, denied the reports in a statement to Newsweek on Tuesday, "President Trump is thrilled with the choice he made with Senator Vance, and they are the perfect team to take back the White House. And any reporting to the contrary is nothing but ridiculous fake news from either nonexistent sources or individuals who have no idea what’s going on.

    Saving this quote for when Trump replaces Vance.

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    Absolute panic and disarray. I wonder who he would go with. Logically, it would have to be a woman or person of color to counter Harris, right? Would there be anyone who would boost him among pro-Palestinian voters, I wonder?

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      Repubs have been campaigning on a platform of bigotry and hatred for decades so I don’t see a woman or minority VP happening. Also Donald is personally a bigot and his eggshell ego could not handle the idea of a VP boosting him.

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      Would there be anyone who would boost him among pro-Palestinian voters, I wonder?

      I doubt it, when Trump is on the record as stating that Netanyahu’s main problem is he isn’t going fast enough.

      Trump, who routinely touts his support of Israel more broadly, has reportedly said he supports Israel in its continued “war on terror” after the October 7 attack by Hamas. And like members of the Israeli government, he has cast doubt on the continued viability of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that has been a cornerstone of US policy for decades.

      At times, however, he has also been critical of the Israeli campaign. He’s said Israel should “get it over with … get back to peace and stop killing people.” But he’s also emphasized they “have to have a victory” and implied that what’s really the issue is that Israel is “absolutely losing the PR war” and “losing its power” in Congress.

      https://www.vox.com/politics/353037/trump-gaza-israel-protests-biden-election-2024

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      It wouldn’t necessarily need to be a PoC or woman but Vance was an extremely weak pick - he’s basically just a little uncharismatic sychophant from an electorally unhelpful state. Trump would probably prefer to get a swing state candidate or someone who brings votes to the table.

      Weirdly enough, that might actually be Nikki Haley since she captured the “reasonable” side of the party (her policy stances were a fucking train wreck especially on reproductive rights).

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        The VP has to be picked by Trump for loyalty first. The person in the position has the ability to Amendment 25 him right out of office on day one. No way he picks Haley for that.

        For the same reason, it’s surprising he even picked Vance. It may have only happened because Musk and Thiel told Trump to. Then Musk backs out of his funding pledge, and suddenly it’s being floated to ditch Vance.

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        Nikki Haley is not a sychophant though. He learned that lesson with Pence. He wants someone who will worship him and follow his instructions.

        Not some “free thinker”.

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          He absolutely wants a sychophant… but not more than he wants presidential immunity and it’s not clear if the Supreme Court’s bizarre rulings are enough to give it to him without him being elected… right now they’re trying but it’s pretty clear Democrats want to overturn that.

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      He’s already made his commitments to Netanyahu public. He’d be trying to reclaim the people on the right that he’s lost, not woo voters from the left. I think Haley’s the most likely replacement.

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        think Haley’s the most likely replacement.

        Have you seen the reaction to Vance’s wife? A person of color VP would mean an exodus from maga.

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    Kamala should sue RNC for “undermining the will of the people” in every fucking state. Litigate that shit until the last second before polls close

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      No, that’d almost certainly be a tactical mistake since it’d lend enough credibility to the claim to get those cases to the Supreme Court and then they’d just rule in favor of Trump in all circumstances… it’d be hard to overrule the court in a situation like that with a deadline for picking an executive and the Supreme Court has shown it’s now gloves off crazy mode… no more “we’re independent jurists”.