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He probably wasn’t thinking clearly, or he may have been half asleep. Who knows?
That’s what they get for holding the debate during nap time.
It’s not like national emergencies happen after 7pm Eastern Time…
his time as career politician should have been an indication but everyone seems lost on the fact he likes the color blue and has a different name other than Trump
maybe colors and letters are not the best indicator of how someone will perform on the job
Then again, you could look at their actual track records.
Ali has a great track record…
But it would be insane to put him in a heavyweight title bout today and act like he has a chance.
Hell, if his kids and managers talked him into it, I’d want it investigated for elder abuse.
And he’s 7 years younger than Biden.
Muhammad Ali? The guy that died in 2016? And yes, I’d prefer him to Trump. Even dead he’d do a better job than the Orange Baboon.
Exactly.
Being a better president than trump is not some insurmountable task that only Biden can accomplish.
It’s something 99.99% of the living population also meets, even some dead citizens
Absolutely. Not beating Trump in an election is unfortunately not as easy when the system is so blatantly skewed in his favour. Swapping out Biden at this point carries lots of risk.
Keeping Biden is a risk…
He’s at 37% approval. 56% disapproval on recent polls. That’s worse than trump and historically an incumbent that low will be a one term president. I think Carter is the only dem that tried for re-election in modern political history with numbers that low, and he lost.
Which everyone is just ignoring for some reason.
Incumbency is only a bonus when people like you. And for a variety of reasons, people don’t like Joe Biden.
OP is a tagged trump supporter
Oh no!
Fuck off fascist.
Right back to ya
Fucking hell, he’s toast. Replace him or we’ll get trump.
I think it’s too late to replace him unless he decides to step down. Of course they could use the 25th amendment but I doubt they will. When Trump was in office, they brought up the 25th amendment nonstop
From the article:
Biden did make several trips in the weeks leading up to the debate. On June 13, the president joined other leaders for the Group of Seven summit in Apulia, Italy. Two days later, he flew to Los Angeles for a celebrity-filled fundraiser alongside former President Barack Obama, where his campaign said he raised at least $28 million, per a report from Politico.
Reuters reported that Biden headed to Camp David on June 21 to begin debate prep six days before he took the stage. White House aides who traveled with the president told Reuters that Biden was “in a good mood” on his way to prepare.
So, let me get this straight. Two-ish weeks before the debate, he travelled to Europe to visit our allies for two days. Then he visits LA for a day. Then, a week before the debate, he goes to Camp David to prepare. And that’s the strenuous schedule that made him almost fall asleep on stage? And that’s supposed to make me feel better? I read another article where it went into a little more detail and said that they didn’t even start debate prep until 11 am each day at Camp David, and included scheduled time for an afternoon nap, so it’s not exactly like they were working him like a rented mule. This makes it seem so much worse, imo. The president has to do a lot more strenuous stuff than debates, and if he’s worthless for weeks after two days of travel, that doesn’t bode well for the coming campaign season.
Sure doesn’t, but they’re grasping as many straws as they can
Biden also reportedly stressed that he was apologetic for his debate performance but told supporters it was “critical” to beat Trump in November. Polling has shown that the candidates are neck and neck, even after Thursday’s debate in which Biden’s demeanor sparked concern among Democrats.
One of the few things I agree with Biden on…
Beating trump is the most important thing, and Biden looks like he might not be up to it.
He just refuses to step aside, because it’s not about beating trump to him, it’s about him beating trump.
And it’s insane to put it on an 81 year that keeps sundowning.
Aside from stepping aside, which is risky let’s all admit - though risky is also staying in - I jokingly, though somewhat firmly believe, that all Biden has to do to see his ratings spike and completely manipulate people is go fucking bananas. Just lean hard into Dark Brandon. Campaign like a motherfucker. Throw out shots left, right, and center. Hop on a couple big stages full energy for two hours.
Basically: All his campaign has to do is twist the narrative. It’d probably work too, though having the idea and accomplishing it are two entirely different monsters. Biden may not be up to acting this piece well enough to sell it. If he did though, I feel he’d come out the other side in a stronger position.
Due to my own biases, I can’t think of anyone else who’d be able to go up against a name like Trump. He won’t step on anymore debate stages. He won’t play fair. Recognition is, I think, very important right now.
Aside from stepping aside, which is risky let’s all admit
The last Dem incumbent with approval similar to Biden’s was Jimmy Carter…
Howd his second term go again?
People keep forgetting that Biden is historically unpopular, he’s not a normal incumbent, he’s one no one wants 4 more years of.
We just don’t want 4 more years of trump either.
So the safe bet is running someone Dem voters want.
Recognition is, I think, very important right now.
And every American will know Biden’s replacements name in 48 hours of being named…
WHO do voters want?
People keep saying to run someone.
Who??
Also, why the fuck do we always start to come together and then find a reason to shit all over ourselves? I’m hard left leaning but like fuck man, it’s hard being covered in verbal shit all the time from all the people that seem so intent on arguing against just coming together. The Republicans can do it, and they’re fucking imbeciles…
…who keep winning!
WHO do voters want?
Not trump. And not Biden…
People keep acting like Dem voters are asking for a perfect candidate, they’re not.
Whitimer is probably the most likely to get tapped and still win, but AOC would make the 2024 election look like a Harlem Globetrotters game. The DNC just won’t pick a progressive
Also, why the fuck do we always start to come together and then find a reason to shit all over ourselves?
Because when we “come together” it’s always progressives holding their noses, moderates getting exactly what they want, and Dem voters not liking what the moderate did once we put them in power.
Look at Obama, Hillary did the whole PUMA thing, but with a progressive candidate, the moderate wing just isn’t fucking needed.
The problem is party leadership are all moderates, and only a tiny slice of Dem voters are.
I’m not seeing any polls that show them neck and neck. I believe Bidens just all about staying in power. Same with his wife and the others that have been lying to the public about his well-being. I think it’s elder abuse.
His trips to Europe were two weeks before the debate…
Anyway, I thought they were blaming a cold and/or being over-prepared…
All of the above and whatever else they can think of
If the media can get a presidential candidate to drop out just by repeatedly asking him to then why the fuck aren’t they calling for Trump to step down?
Because they’re full of shit. That’s why.
What?
You think Biden is just as likely to put himself over the country and listen to reason…
As trump is?
Look. I don’t think Biden is a good candidate, but even I give him more fucking credit than that
Do you really believe Biden is as selfish and egotistical as trump?
That’s a pretty hot take even post debate…
And BTW, it’s not just “the media”. It’s “the media” that has been defending him for four years, political experts, and even his own party
https://apnews.com/article/biden-doggett-2024-election-98c3bd8c4138245e7ef8f79d621268e8
