I have not heard such a thing from left leaning folks, but I’d quickly shut them down if they were suggesting pity for these people.
“These voters don’t support Trump because they labor under some illusion that he’s going to rescue their communities — not anymore,” Bai wrote. “They support him because he’s willing to blow up the country if it means teaching insufferable intellectuals a lesson.”
This here is the real motivation of MAGAs. Half the country wants this.
Edit: apparently not a Herzog quote https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/werner-herzog-germany-quote/
Sucks that part of Germany is falling asleep again.
From what I see, so far it’s more a case of the bad third waking up again. What happens next remains to be seen.
Not half, a third. Another third wants to stop it, and the other third can’t tell the difference.
Ah, the centrists. Because not picking a side can never be wrong, right.
…right?
100%. They don’t care what the actual facts are. They just want to feel right and if the world burns to do that, so be it.
When you get down to it, it is a lack of emotional intelligence coupled with a lack of education which are likely factors in the development of the whole movement. It made them very ready to accept propaganda, as well.
Less than half, the 2020 election put them at about 22% (74,223,975/331,449,281).
It sounds like something I’ve heard before…
Target
Cambodia’s previous military and political leadership, middle-class professionals, businesspeople, intellectuals, ethnic and religious minorities
This is something that needs to be said about all Republicans. Their party’s been indulging in fascist politics since Goldwater ran on opposing the civil rights act six decades ago, but we keep pretending there are decent people with the intellectual capacity to serve in office who identify as Republicans anyway for some reason. The uncomfortable but simple fact is that there are only idiot Republicans who don’t realize their party’s continued existence is a threat to the country and evil Republicans who do, and neither should be in any kind of government office ever.
Y’all fought and killed a bunch of each other but, after defeating them, both sides just returned to the dinner table like things were normal again… Despite one of them having tried and failed to destroy it all.
How were they not just deplatformed entirely? Money, I guess?
Their last chance was 2020. I could theoretically understand their vote in 2016. If you still support Trump it’s because you agree with what he stands for, and are therefore a trash human being. It’s not because “the Democrats aren’t good either”, it’s because you’re an authoritarian boot licker. End of story.
Yup. I can imagine a lot of uninformed voters supporting Trump back then simply because he had an R next to his name. He certainly can’t count on that this time.
Been ignorant… all the way back to the Tea Party and Birther nonsense.
“Aigh aint seen no 'birth certif-ee-cate!”
“It’s online, have you looked for it?”
“Well, no.”
“WTF do you expect? Obama going door to door? ‘Hey! Y’all see my birth certificate? Here you go!’”
I’m sorry but you clearly don’t remember this at all. They are idiots, but when the birth certificate was presented people didn’t say they hadn’t seen it, but bought into the conspiracy theory that it was faked.
The teabaggers were just more of the same people from the hatriot radio and black helicopter stuff from the 90s when they were selling each other tapes on Waco and the like, all pissed off about Ruby Ridge and stocking up on MREs and guns and ammo.
And that crap was just a rehash of the Birchers. And I’m sure the Birchers had their crazy unhinged precursors, too…the crazy unhinged bullshit on the xtianist nationalist fringe has been around for a long, long time.
I used to point and laugh at the dumbphucks that talk about how “your SSN is the number of the beast, don’t use it for anything but the few cases the law requires it, yadda yadda” and now these very same assholes have a real chance of getting a dickhead like donnie with Project 2025 at the ready to enact a lot of their crazy, crazy agendas to inflict on the rest of us.
For that first one: I knew who these people were back in elementary school. They are the ones that crossed their arms and defiantly said things like, “What do we need to even learn all this stuff for? it don’t mean nuthin! Just a bunch of book-larnin! We won’t need this in the real world!”. And then went right on to either doing the bare minimum until they graduated, if they even did that.
And now this sort are still Karens. And now “doing their own research”.
I have no pity for them anymore.
The first time they voted for trump, it was a stupid mistake and we all suffered for it.
The second time, not a stupid mistake, just stupid people.
Voting for him a third time? Now you’re just being evil. Fuck you.
Oh hell, a whole lot of them knew back when they voted for him in 2016. In fact, he had the full-throated support of Nazis like Richard Spencer.
If people pretended not to know who donnie was back then, I think there is a good chance they were lying then and now, or very very stupid.
This has been obvious, and written about, for years:
The Atlantic, 2018:
I have friends who’s loved ones are in the GOP death cult, they ask “what’s the point of all this immigrant and abortion stuff, they used to not care about this at all”
I simply reply: “The cruelty is the point. DJT isn’t promising to fix anything really, he’s promising to hurt the right people.”
That voter that said donnie is not hurting the people he’s supposed to be hurting is a moment of one of them saying the very true part out loud.
That’s exactly what they are about, and no one can tell me that there is not a huge contingent of them voting for this very reason and no other. They don’t GAF about “babies”, for instance, it’s about making sure loose women aren’t “getting away” with something. They don’t GAF about “the” bible; they just don’t like gay people. And on and on. None of this stuff will make their lives better in any meaningful way, but they want to see others suffer.
There are plenty of Tone Police ™ and Enlightened Centrists ™ that will rush in to tell everyone that it’s about people that have economic anxiety and Hillary shouldn’t have called a percentage of them deplorable and it wasn’t AXECHUALLY an insurrection (nope, it was terrorism) and and and…
Right? Why should we as a nation, show pity to traitors and saboteurs?
I can’t fathom anything other than straight-up rage towards them. I don’t understand how the needle’s way over there near “pity”!
I view MAGA/Republicans like Ace Rothstein views Don Ward in Casino when the lottery machines were rigged to hit jackpots, which is effectively: you’re either too dumb to see what’s happening or you’re in on it, either way you’re out!
This is what I’ve been saying all long about these things. They don’t deserve to be protected from the backlash they so deserve.
I will always remember the folks around me that voted red in 2016, 2020 and 2024. Willful enablers of an asswhipe tyrant.
I support the abolition of the Republican party as a whole
The best description I have heard is that the support of Trump over any fact or reason is because it is kayfabe. They choose to live in a fantasy because it’s more appealing than the reality.
Why are they reporting on other reporting? Seems like a strange thing to do. Maybe it’s a slow day in the news cycle today.
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