Personally, I don’t* but I was curious what others think.
*some sandwiches excluded like a Cubano or chicken parm; those do require cooking.
No, I would call that “preparing”. Cooking is the act of using heat to prepare food for consumption.
Which means that it might be, depending on the sandwich. For example, you cook a panini or grilled cheese.
What about using my George Foreman grill?
What matters is the loaf. Use the upper cut
How much needs to be heated? If I toast the bread but not the other ingredients, then clearly I did cook by that definition, yeah?
It’s only cooking if it’s done in the Cooke region governed by the Earle of Sandwich. Anything else is sparkling food preparation.
Cooking (in the English I was taught) involves the application of heat - frying, baking, roasting, boiling etc are the names for specific ways to do this. A sandwich would be made or prepared.
Some go as far as saying cooking requires a chemical change, else youre just heating
Yeah - an application of heat to create a chemical change. You’re correct there. My answer was incomplete.
Just for the heck of it, if you heat protein enough to denature it but have no Maillard reaction (let’s say you’ve just made a hard boiled egg), would that not be considered cooking by that definition?
My understanding is that denaturing is a physical structure change, not a chemical one (and according to Wikipedia can be reversible in some cases), not a biochemist or food scientist though so totally accepting that my understanding is incorrect/incomplete.
If you cook it, like a grilled cheese, then yes. Otherwise, it’s sandwich arts.
Tuna melt?
Nope. In English, if it doesn’t involve the application of heat, you ain’t cooking, you’re preparing, making, or other terminology.
So toasting a sammich is cooking, but making the sammich isn’t?
Pretty much, yeah. Same as grilling a burger and putting it on bread is cooking despite the bread being pre-made.
Afaik, cooking isn’t limited to applying heat to raw foods.
Might be worth saying that I don’t remember which dictionary the definition came from, and that dictionaries only record language, they don’t prevent changes over time. Which means that usage could have changed enough since the last time I looked at any, and now have a different usage added
Cooking is a process of transformation, both physical and symbolic. Combining ingredients intentionally to create something flavorful and nutritious, making a sandwich certainly falls under the act of cooking.
The question is inadequatly phrased. You must describe what kind of sandwich we are speaking of. Unless op is speaking about cold sandwiches exclusively, many sandwiches require cooking.
Croque Monsieur
Grilled Cheese
Cubano
Monte Cristo
Panini
These are just a few that I came up with off the top of my head. I’m sure there are many more.
It you cook the sandwich, the bread, or any part of the filling, yes. If you toast your bread and warm up your ingredients in a pan, why not ? But if you are just cuting and filling. You’re assembling a sandwich, not cooking it.
Ehhh food preparation more than cooking. You’re just assembling things. I’m a pro at a good sandwich if I do say so myself. Sometimes I have to cook to make that happen. But a basic sandwich…nah, no cooking involved.
I would say you’re making food, not cooking, but like, who cares? If someone says I’m cooking lunch and then comes out with sandwiches I wouldn’t really notice it doesn’t make sense, but if you say I’m cooking a sandwich, that pokes my brain in the incorrect language department
Ya gotta toast it
Only if making the sandwich involves cooking, like a grill cheese or something
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Does it take unreasonably long compared to the time to consume the food?
Yes.
Does it use ingredients?
Yes.
Is it worth the effort?
No.
Sounds like cooking to me.
Is it worth the effort?
No.
Sounds like you suck at cooking, my guy.
Just because you don’t enjoy it doesn’t mean you suck at it
They did not say “do I enjoy it?” they said “Is it worth the effort?” and if having food made exactly to your taste is not worth the effort you either have no standards and would be fine with microwave slop and fast food, or you lack the skill to make something that satisfies you.
Either way, skill issue.
The one exception would be if you’re disabled or something, and I don’t mean “I have adhd” disabled, I mean “I physically can’t stand at the stove for 20-30 minites” disabled.
We’ll agree to disagree
I don’t think it’s cooking unless you are applying heat to cause a chemical reaction. So, making a grilled cheese sandwich counts as cooking, but a BP&J does not.
What if I microwave it?
You can cook with a microwave, but if you’re just reheating something that’s not cooking.
Making ceviche or sushi officially not cooking confirmed - how dare those posers call themselves sushi chefs.
The acid from the lime is doing the cooking in ceviche.
I agree - and it specifically isn’t doing so through an application of heat.
gotta cook the rice for sushi. checkmate.
Sashimi: do I not even exist, bro?
Slap a whole fish down in front of you.
You: “Not cooked”
slice fillet of fish off and present it.
You: “Not cooked”
slice fillet into small bite size pieces and squirt some neon green horseradish next to it
You: “Dis is cooked!”
?
Yea, it looks fucking delicious. Thank you for cooking me a fine meal!
Ha, you actually believe in Sashimi? Crazy.
What if I want my raw spam musubi extra crunchy?
Then you should opt the spam out for soused harring.
I think of a chef as a “preparer of food” not necessarily “food cooker”
So sushi chef is still accurate to their opinion, disclaimer I agree with them so I could always be rationalizing it.
chef is french for chief. they are the head of the kitchen.
They still have to cook the rice.
Some of the constituent ingredients have to be cooked, but ceviches and sushi rolls aren’t cooked any more than salads or burritos. They’re assembled or prepared.
You’re ignoring the chemical process in ceviche.
Yea, ceviche is cooked with acid rather than heat - you can also cook some foods with salt!
You could cook using an exothermic reaction between ingredients, but I don’t think that’s what’s happening when making ceviche, so a ceviche is not cooked.
Cc @SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
The proteins are being chemically denatured.
By heat?
Ceviche is said to be “cooked” with acid, even if that’s not the most accurate term. And most forms of sushi are made with cooked rice, at minimum, and not uncommonly with other cooked ingredients. So those things kind of muddy the waters for your point. But a clearer example may be something like beef tartare, a garden salad with a vinegarette, or sashimi. Those things are “prepared”, not cooked, because no cooking is involved in their making. Cooking is specifically the preparation of food utilizing heat. Chefs prepare plenty of dishes that do not involve the act of cooking.
Just because it’s preparing food and not cooking doesn’t mean that it is lesser.
Beenut putter?
Lol whoops. I’m leaving it.
Butter, peanutbutter and jelly?
Butter, Peanut butter, and Just a little more peanut butter
