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      The hackers who took 4chan down come from an imageboard known as soyjak.party or “the sharty”. They are unironically, in terms of politics, more far right, and in terms of culture, far worse than 4chan from what I’ve heard and seen from the website.

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        Yeah - the real freaks left because moot dated like Brianna Wu or something stupid and weird like that. 8chan was the place for a bit.

        4chan is owned by an anime figma company at the moment - i think Nendroid?

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    I looked at some of the leaked source code and my god the code smells are so rotten its like they had a dead horse in the back for a while and its developed a stank like an Eric Andre skit.

    It increasingly looks like nobody would maintain this bundle of wax besides under-experienced juniors who threw themselves at it, and apparently after moot sold it, it was never touched. It runs on an extremely old version of FreeBSD and PHP.

    The fact this happened now as opposed to any time in the past decade is, I have no words.

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          When the protests against scientology happened. Long before it was sold. Long before MAGA or the politics board were even a concept. It didn’t die immediately from them, but it was the start of a measurable drop in discussion quality that never stopped.

          The “protests” devolved into some of the cringiest irl meetups of online communities I have ever come across (yes, worse than dashcon), and it caused so much media attention that it accelerated the “eternal september” problem the site always had exponentially.

          Motherfuckers forgot the golden rule about “hiding your power level”, which at the time at least meant doing your best to appear relatively normal in public and went full “I’m a horribly socially maladjusted mess with bad hygiene who can only communicate via tired memes, look at me! Look at me! I know memes! Haha longcat is long am I right?”.

          A lot of people remember the cringe of reddit’s “When does the narwhal bacon?” forced meme attempt at the world’s most embarassing “secret pass phrase” bullshit. The scientology “protests” were significant orders of magnitude more cringe.

          4chan was never a secret club, but the sheer agressiveness of non-tolerance towards obviously new posters helped to maintain a very low bar of “quality”. I’d argue that’s needed to maintain any semblance of a community on an entirely anonymous image board that has minimal moderation. Shitty threads would get saged relentlessly, eating up the maximum comments a thread could have and drowning out any discussion in the shitty thread, all without bumping it back up to the top. Hit the reply limit and the thread slides off the bottom, gone forever.

          “Lurk moar, faggot” was the phrase of the time. Stop posting until you figure out how things work around here.

          But as more and more people unfamiliar with what shitty community existed came in, there hit a point where they outnumbered the old guard, and the already low quality of discussion tanked.

          /b/ used to have discussion threads about all sorts of shit. Actual thought provoking stuff now and then. Funny stories. Occasionally legitimately good OC. It was the breeding ground for most of the memes and meme formats that spread to the internet at large. Mudkipz, rickrolling, EFG (the progenitor of trollface and rage comics), lolcats, advice animals. All /b/.

          Now it is almost entirely people sharing photos of women they know that they’ve downloaded off the ladies’ social media accounts to jerk off to. Previously they would have been chased off to the dedicated porn (or softcore) boards using fire, pitchforks, and spam of the most digusting images the internet had until the posters got the message. Or at the very least they would have been bullied into a single thread at a time instead of taking over almost every thread on the board.

          Instead it has all devolved to the absolute lowest common denominator.

          /b/ (and by extension 4chan as a whole) has always been a cesspit. I’m not trying to deny that. There’s screenshots out there of it back when the post count hadn’t breached 1000 that show that it was shit even in the very very beginning. Back when it was almost exclusively m00t, W.T. Snacks, and their friends from Something Awful. That said, it used to be engaging to scroll through because you could stumble upon some legitimately good discussion. It hasn’t been worth even trying to look for good discussion on /b/ for well over a decade.

          The retro videogames board was a brief shining return to quality for a few years after it was created, even managed to find, back up, and translate some things that had been lost media. The DooM threads used to be the place to be for new DooM wads. Even that board’s pretty shit now too.

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            I used to frequent the /tg/ board, it had people making homebrew conceptual RPGs - the kind of stuff that the indie RPG scene pretends to have invented. Sorry to see the site go, but it was inevitable.

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          I wonder about this sometimes.

          Poole knew he had a contentious base of users. I remember in 2013 or 2014, 4chan users posted photographic evidence his gf was cheating on him, and I think it broke him. I dont blame him for selling the site, but 18 months later… I wonder if Moot knew he was holding back the end of the world.

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            I wonder if Poole has done any interesting interviews on the intersection of 4chan and the modern fascist propaganda machine it bred.

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          Around then for me. Hiroyuki allowed /pol/ to happen when moot tried it and ditched it quickly. Too many people started thinking their farts didn’t stink. I went there for anime discussions when every other popular site was a hugbox.

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    Start linking up 4chan IDs to real rich people like Musk or republican officials and watch trump start calling for the death penalty for the hacker.

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    Question: what is the significance of /qa/, why was the board banned in the first place, and why did the hackers bring it back?

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      qa was my favourite 4chan board probably ever. it was a random board like /b/, but strictly SFW. so, they were the creatives of the site. the soyjak memes you see everywhere started there. they got into fights with other boards but it came to a boiling point when they raided 4chans LGBT board, and as a result qa was closed. they moved to another website. that website, or rather one of its users, then spent about a year navigating the very outdated freebsd from a decade ago running on 4chans servers until he was able to access the PHP admin panel, re-open /qa/, and then nuke all files on the server except the homepage. which itself now seems to return an SQL error.

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          its a website referred to as the party, but im not saying the actual name due to the fact that it regularly gets spammed with csam and other violent things of the nature, its really a lawless land and its hosted in russia. its not hard to find if you look on twitter or something. even as someone who went on qa before, i have never wanted to step foot there, its not the same.

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      As much as I hate Elmo, I still value truth more. There is 0 evidence he’s behind that account. And given that the account claims to own Twitter (= claims to be Elmo), it’s far more likely to be a troll than a secret-but-not-secret account by the richest fuckface in the world

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        If you look trough the posts, people were slowly claiming it to be musk and he was slowly confirming it.

        That could ofcourse be a troll too.

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        Guess the posts times could be crosschecked with times when Musk was in public events or so, not to confirm it is him, but to see if it not

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    10000 line file with no comments is honestly relatable as someone who took a job and had to wade through code like that

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      My nightmare source was only a few lines less, and it actually was commented. But in French. Label names were also dereived from French. The original author was dead, and Google translate was not yet a thing.