This will not end well.
Waiting for the first story of a shootout.
Remember, none of this is restricted to actual gang members.
If they can deport anyone who is a member of a Venezuelan gang to a prison camp without trial then, oops, turns out everyone they don’t like is a member of a Venezuelan gang.
You can prove you’re not? Too bad. That would require a trial. You don’t get one of those, because we say you’re a member of a Venezuelan gang.
See how this works?
ICE are Trump’s sturmabteilung. If he’s allowed to get away with any of this, it will not be long before he starts turning them on anyone who openly disagrees with him.
All they have to do is follow the law. Law says they can call anyone a terrorist or national security threat and that removes people’s rights. This has been law for years. Now, Republicans are using it because they know they will not get in trouble.
You don’t have to be in a gang. They will say standing outside of a Home Depot is a lawful reason to send you to a South American gulag. Because Republicans will not get in trouble.
Remember when we were told that kids had to keep dying so we could be allowed to keep guns in our home in case the government decides to break down our doors one day??? Member that? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Any local administrator that signs in for this, is guilty of treason. This administration is guilty, conclusively, now of treason. Why isn’t it being removed? What’s all this about checks and balances? Seems like the people invoking the alien enemies acts have become, themselves alien enemies.
This is going to go over great in a country that prides itself on unrestricted firearms for home and personal protection 🫣
They would love nothing more than a few ice agents getting shot to justify an even harsher show of force in the future
Those folks will bend over the hardest
2a
Do stand your ground laws still apply?
Do the Americans really want USA to be a fascist gestapo country?
How exactly do the methods of Trumps regime reflect a society that values freedom?MAGA’s society is one where white people rule and set the laws. Right now, the target is brown people but it won’t stay that way for long. East Asians will be the next cause of issues with China.
MAGA’s society is one where white people rule and set the laws.
Absolutely, but it was not only white people who voted Trump in, a lot of Latinos and Hispanics also voted for him, and they are absolutely targets already!
They think they’re considered white but the leopards are getting ready to feast.
Doesn’t the US incorporate castle doctrine principles - an affirmative defense to criminal homicide occurring within a home? Combine that with lax to nonexistent gun control and a high gun ownership rate, and you’re just asking for trouble.
That’s if they let you live long enough to make it to trial, nevermind afterward. 😶
I’ve resisted, all this time, getting a gun because I have a history of depression and I didn’t want one in the house
however, given I have the blessing of castle doctrine in my state I’m really starting to think getting one might be the smarter decision. at least I might get to go out on my own terms.
You have to weigh the likelihood of a warrantless raid versus another bout of heavy depression.
I’m in the middle of a bout of heavy depression right now, I just want to live long enough to outlive my close family, namely my parents. They shouldn’t have to sit through my funeral.
Being gay and neurodivergent, though, I don’t think I have that long in this country. And I have no method to escape.
Hey. One of my best friends was gay and had depression. He came from a very religious family and struggled with both of these things his entire life. Then he got sick and didn’t seek treatment for a medical issue that was curable but fatal if untreated. He died. I think he chose not to seek treatment because it was an out that he didn’t have to affirmatively choose.
The world is a worse place without him. It’s been 3 years and I still think about him almost every day. Please find a better solution.
Don’t kill yourself that’s just giving them what they want. Existence is resistance.
Suicide ain’t it, neighbor. Sincerely. Not even suicide by cop.
If you need to talk, I’m here. Feel free to DM or reply here, I’m around. 🤘🏼
It varies state by state, and sometimes by municipality.
“According to the memo, agents can break into a home if getting a warrant is “impracticable,” and they don’t need a judge’s approval.”
Here in Oregon:
https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_161.219
"a person is not justified in using deadly physical force upon another person unless the person reasonably believes that the other person is:
(1) Committing or attempting to commit a felony involving the use or threatened imminent use of physical force against a person; or
(2) Committing or attempting to commit a burglary in a dwelling; or
(3) Using or about to use unlawful deadly physical force against a person. [1971 c.743 §23]"
“According to the memo, agents can break into a home if getting a warrant is “impracticable,” and they don’t need a judge’s approval.”
Interesting. I’m not an expert on the matter by any means, as I’m not even American, but from what I’ve read, ICE agents often dress in plain civilian clothes - sometimes with no identification markers at all - and can now enter your home without a warrant based merely on “suspicion”. Taking all of this into account, it seems like you would have reasonable belief that you’re in danger and should defend yourself.
Yup. If it’s my house, it falls under #2, my neighbors house would fall under #1.
We’d all wish that. But, unfortunately, that’s not the case with US citizens. After all, they could get rid of him in some way or another (see JFK).
Where? Down at the Quik-E Mart again?
Yep
👌 perfect
Oh look, another thing that has been shot down in court that will have to be relitigated to tell them they’re fucking idiots.
If they even listen to the courts. Things aren’t looking good on that front.
Since when have they listened to courts?
Like they care at all what the courts say, there are no consequences for defying the court, they have made that very clear.
At this point just start pelting any unmarked Fed looking van with rocks
Poor FedEx drivers!
Hey, it’s Fedish
^heh
I wouldn’t…
