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    “of the feminine species”

    Uh, do you want to explain to this guy what a species is, or do I have to?

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        Ladies wasn’t used in the Original Post.


        When playing a RPG of some sort, sometimes they give you the ability to reallocate all your talent points in a different way. Such as switching from melee focused to something magic oriented like a wizard or a witch. This is called a Respec, short for Re-specialization.


        Respec sounds very similar to Respect. The Original Post is about respecting women.

        I appreciate your interest in my comment, hope you have a nice day. Take care.

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    Meanwhile: males, dudes, guys, homies, fellas, bois, bros, lads, laddie, mates, geezers, chaps, gents, boss, hoss, cheif, buddy, pal, son, sonny, sonny boy, muchacho, hombre, old timer, Mac, Joe…

    “Yeah what’s up?”

    I don’t think we need to cancel Guys and Dolls just yet.

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        Honestly a lot of them start out as or still contextually imply “males” in the US, but can be used gender neutrally as well now too. Like “how you guys doing” vs “hanging out with the guys.”

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          It’s interesting isn’t it? “Guys” can include women, and can even be a group of only women, but you can’t talk about a single woman as a guy - “I snogged this gorgeous guy last night”.

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            Using “guys” for a group of only women works only in 2nd person. You can say “I love you guys!” to a group of women, but you can’t say “I was hanging out with the guys” when talking about the same group.

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      As a man who likes fedoras, this stereotype offends me. Sadly, it’s an accurate description most of th etime.

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        Usually the Redditors wear the fedora without knowing how to pair it correctly with the rest of their outfits, so don’t worry, if you wear a nice attire and a fedora people won’t get you confused with the guy wearing an ahegao t-shirt two sizes too small and cargo shorts.

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      And I can hear it spoken with a lisp that you get when talking with a mouth full of prosthetics. Pfemales

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    Trans women want to be referred to as just women, and biological women don’t want to be referred to as Cis women, so other than female, what is there?

    I agree that I get the ick from female when referred to by certain men, but at this point, I don’t see another option.

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      Not wanting to be referred to as cis, is just as ridiculous as not wanting to be referred to as straight. It just means “not trans”. The women who don’t want to be referred to as cis are TERFs, so their opinions are irrelevant.

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        Is it just as ridiculous as not wanting to be referred to as trans? Why label what something is not rather than what something is?

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      The problem is female and women aren’t grammatically equivalent, so you can’t just drop one in place of the other anytime you want. It bugs me when people say woman president. Imagine electing a man president. The correct word in that case is male. You’d be electing a male president. I don’t care about anyone’s politics. I’m just getting tired of people in suits on tv using poor language and being asked to be taken seriously. And I’m not singling out democrats. Republicans adopted that language too. There are people on tv who wouldn’t pass kindergarten telling us what they think will affect GDP.

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      Ooo help me learn today if you don’t mind… Where does this prefix grouping come from?

      Edit: found it, I think: Chinese?

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        Yeah, what they’re saying doesn’t make much sense logically though.

        Men here is 们, the plural marker for people. Wo (我) is I or me, wo+men (我们) we or us, ni (你) is you, ni+men (你们) is you (plural), ta (他/她/它) is he/she/it, and ta+men (+们) is they.

        Some other variants exists, and there’s specifics on the usage. I also missed the tone markers on the pinyin because they’re a pain to type.

        Anyway I’m not sure what joke or point they were trying to make.

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          They say fluency happens when you make your first cross language pun, so riffing on a mediocre meme feels like halfway there.

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        Correct; wo, ni, ta are the singular forms I, you, he/she/it. Adding the -men suffix turns it into the plural we/you/they.

        So literally, ‘we’ are ‘women’.

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      Is female derogatory? I thought it was just a more scientific classification.

      Edit: I work at a large engineering and manufacturing company where some of our products need to take into consideration the difference between male and female anatomy. I just hear “male” and “female” systems discussed on a weekly basis so I think I might sometimes refer to men and women as “male” and “female” outside of work without giving it a second thought.

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        I thought it was just a more scientific classification.

        Scientifc classification by sex. Referring to others by their biological sex in a social context is weird and creepy. Even if you believe sex and gender are the same thing, it’s still weird to call people by their sex. “Hello, male human. Want to ingest some fried pieces of cow flesh tonight?”

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        If you are calling a woman “a female”, and aren’t a cop discussing a victim or a doctor writing a chart, then yes, it’s fucking derogatory.

        We’re not Ferengi.

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          Yep. A lot of incels seemingly are unfamiliar with scientific classification and try to use it in casual statements.

          Like, they sound real stupid trying to redirect it to be about science then saying phrases like “boobs and tits”.

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        I thought it was just a more scientific classification.

        It’s a classification of sex like biological characteristics, like chromosomes, hormones, and reproductive organs.  Are you asking about that?

        Gender is a social construct. Just like race. Where you can be a Black person who is British. Or a Filipino American.

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        Using scientific terminology in colloquial speech is weird and creepy in most contexts. Calling kids “juveniles” and women “females” carries certain connotations, most of them bad.

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        Using female as a noun (rather than as an adjective, such as in the phrase “female firefighter”, or any phrase of the format “female $noun”) is generally overly clinical and dehumanizing. Some people do it out of habit due to their profession-- usually researchers or soldiers-- but they usually say “males and females”, which while still weird isn’t the worst.

        The guys who say “men and females” are the ones you need to watch out for.

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        It’s not inherently derogatory, but it does hold a connotation if you refer to women as females particularly in contexts where you wouldn’t/don’t refer to men as males.

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        Yes, using scientific terminology can be derogatory. But in this case, acting like the opposite sex is a species on its own, classifying them as animals and slurring all women as hoes gave it away for me.