The footage of the fatal shooting of Alex Jeffrey Pretti, said one journalist, “shows that the final act of his life was trying to help a woman who was being physically assaulted by the masked agents who would then kill him.”
In the original video of the shooting of a man in Minneapolis, identified by the Minneapolis Star Tribune at 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a woman in a pink coat was seen in the background filming the incident with her phone.
Drop Site News obtained footage that appeared “to come from the direction of the woman in pink filming from the sidewalk” and showed the shooting at a closer distance than the footage taken from inside Glam Doll Donuts.
In the video, the shooting victim, dressed in a brown coat and pants, is seen filming a federal agent with his phone. He’s then seen guiding another person toward the sidewalk as the agent forcefully shoves a third person to the ground.
Does anybody have a good source on the original full resolution videos from the source where they were posted/first shared?
Something I was just made aware of: after shooting and killing Alex Pretti, ICE officers then stood back and shot him 5 more times.
ICE murdered that man.
From here we have two paths:
One: Civility is eventually restored to government and these people are tried and convicted for their crimes.
Two: All out civil war.
We will not let ICE, Trump or any of these Nazis complete their agenda.
One: Civility is eventually restored to government and these people are tried and convicted for their crimes.
Respectfully, that’s an outcome, not a path to get there.
The MAGA shitheads won’t just give up and let themselves be prosecuted. They won’t stop appointing judges, they won’t stop cheating on elections, they won’t stop manipulating media, and they won’t stop harassing, intimidating, and killing their opposition until someone makes them.
There’s a third option: people don’t resist and the regime does whatever it wants.
So far we’ve chosen that option.
I want to believe that the killing of Good and Pretti will be a turning point…but I’m a middle aged American who has developed some cynicism about my fellow countrymen…
That would be pretti goode. I hope that happens
The third option is what I expect from years of “American exceptionalism” brainwashing.
Ironically that’s how things went so wrong in Russia, too.
Germany too. Dont Be A Sucker should be alll over social media
I expect them to act smug and talk about the midterms.
100% - You’re suggesting to fight the U.S. Military in power. History has shown that nobody “wins” against the American Military. (inb4 some obscure factoid). Even in Vietnam or Afghanistan, it was just destruction - nobody won anything except the investors.
There’s 0 leadership down in the trenches too. So ontop of suggesting to fight the U.S. Military, you’re suggesting to do so as unorganized. That’s going to be easily spun by media as terrorist cells. Sure, they’re throwing around “domestic terrorist” already, but it hits differently when they only see 1 side dying. Once there are actual gunfights in the street is when they can rally support from their base for actual action.
We have to wait for midterms. There’s been so much bad press regarding Trumps 2nd term that regaining control of the Senate is doable, albeit difficult. In the chance that the Senate is held, then there’s a chance to restore order and bring people to justice. Midterms is going to be impossible to avoid for those who participate so it’s going to be impossible to avoid the onslaught of bullshit that ensues and will be a wake up call for the people not on Lemmy (or Reddit) and still on Facebook or X (Boomers).
Personally, I think a Civil War in inevitable. I don’t think the Trump Admins are going to recede power. I don’t think Dems are going to get a majority in the Senate, and I think things are going to get worse. That being said, Midterms is a chance to find leadership and a chance for actual States to break out of this charade.
That’s going to be easily spun by media as terrorist cells.
And the “terrorist” label might also be pretext for the government to de-bank the people they accuse.
There’s a third option: people don’t resist and
the regime does whatever it wants.we fight them in the courtGlad I could fix that for you.
How’s that going so far? You have a 34 time convicted felon for a president sending his fascist goon squads out to murder people in the streets and none of your precious fucking lawyers have done jack shit about it.
Oh, well next time you’re wrong by someone and dont immediately get justice; you’re absolutely justified jumping to violence… /s
Violence is always justified against fascists; it is self defense.
Violence without organization and strategy is counterproductive.
I may agree with you if over the past 5 years the term “fascist” hadn’t been deluted more than a dive bar’s $0.50 draft beer.
These are armed, masked government goons slaughtering civilians in the streets in a widespread terror campaign orchestrated by your criminal warlord president wherein various people labeled “undesirables” by your fascist government are disappeared to concentration camps and “deported” to prisons in other countries they have no connection to.
If Hell existed, you would meet all your German pals in the deepest, darkest, coldest layer.
Military coup. The only way a civil war is successful is if the military are on the side of the people. The most important of which would be the USN and USAF Strategic Forces. A prolonged ground war is only won by sea, air, and nuclear forces. More specifically nuclear forces in the hands of said military who will NOT use them on our own land.
It will present a serious challenge with all the Pentagon purges. But the majority of Flag and Line officers are from West Point, Annapolis, and Maxwell. It’s unlikely most side with Trump (for now). The real trick will hinge on the NCOs, as the US Military is predominantly a middle-out force, and senior NCOs hold the bulk of our service members’ respect. What they decide to do in the majority will dictate the outcome of a civil war. One NG commander already stated publicly he will order his soldiers to protect protesters from ICE agents. There is a small chance.
Ideally the next time President Trump boards Marine 1 he’s taken into custody at a military base with a large Delta, Rangers, or NG presence to subdue USSS agents. With a Federal Judge, Vance, Speaker Johnson, and Grassley in tow. Invoke 25 or Martial Law, and go down the line of succession until someone takes the oath. This is highly unlikely though. A full impeachment is more likely, but a lot of people will need to for die before it will happen.
It’s either that or The Man in The High Castle. The American Fourth Reich.
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That would undoubtedly be part of said coup. Giving them the opportunity to swear the oath to the Constitution does that. Note that the key provision in the line of succession is a heartbeat.
The French didn’t invent the guillotine for show.
“What the f*ck did you do?”
NEEDS to be embraced as a slogan with the same passion as “Let’s Go Brandon”
It’s the perfect Anti-ICE, Anti-Trump, Anti-Capitalist message.
It calls back to the decades of intelligent well educated Americans saying this was an inevitability given the obvious path we’ve been on.
I saw a guy walking around town the other day with a sign that said, “Are we great yet?” and felt like that was a great little slogan that confronts Trump supporters with the fact that all of this was supposedly being done to restore whatever personally idealized version of “great” America once embodied to them. Pretty sure the majority of people who voted for Trump wouldn’t even say that using federal agents to murder Americans in the street for exercising their constitutional right to protest is included in their own personal definition of the “greatness” that they feel America needs to get back to.
It’s a good message for the non-insane, but anyone still pro-Trump will just tell themselves that we haven’t gotten rid of enough gays/immigrants/trans people yet for the country to be as great as it once was in some imagined past. In that light the sign has an ambiguous interpretation
He saved that woman’s life, but I cannot imagine how she feels right now. I would be sick with survivor’s guilt.
This is just straight up murder. He shot man in the back a dozen times with no threat to his safety at all, this is AFTER they gang beat him to the ground for no reason. This is unacceptable.
Best video I’ve seen:
https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qm2vi0/heres_your_proof_with_the_moment_of_truth_isolated/
Trump’s Taliban doing summary street executions now.
Thugs checklist:
- Pepper spray
- Push down on ground
- Feral pack pile on
- Run off with the gun they stole
- Empty clips into prone body
5 happened before 4
Its a minor detail, but really highlights the heinous nature of what happened here. They disarmed him before executing him.
Honestly, i think its a pretty major detail. They disarmed him and then shot him 10 times. Its what changes this from murder to execution. The man was not a threat the whole time but after they took his only means of being a threat they then killed him and are claiming he was a threat. They neutered their own defence. If he still had the gun when they shot him they would have an easier time lying about what happened.
Yep. Fixed.
We need to see the video he was making, you know, the one to hold the ICE agents accountable, the one they killed him for
We never will see that one. The ICEholes will have taken it as “evidence” so they can destroy it.
If his icloud or google account can be accessed then it is likely the video exists still. I doubt those agents were smart enough to realise this and likely destroyed the phone thinking that would do it.
Can apple or google access your photos and videos?
Yes they can and do access your photos and videos. The claim they need this profoundly invasive business practice to scan your media for CSAM to “protect the children.”
Yes they can but they’ll only do it when they’re sucking up to federal law enforcement
They shot him many times so he couldn’t testify later against them. 1 shot, then a bunch for the kill.
public paramilitary execution.
Doesn’t matter to the MAGAts, they will just disobey the evidence of their eyes, as the party tells them.
“I don’t read propaganda” was one of the last things my mother said to me before we broke off communication for good. I don’t associate with nazis or their supporters. And of course the irony is lost on her, that propaganda is the ONLY thing she consumes.
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I’m sorry you had to lose your mother to this bullshit.
It’s … predictable. The MAGA on my FB feed are all quiet. Not one single peep. They’ll ignore it until they’re given some talking points. Or they’ll just never mention it.
This will become the next election-fraud-style loyalty test. If you state publicly that you don’t see manslaughter in the video, you’ve proven your loyalty to the great leader.
by this point, if a gunman was heading to ICE agents with finger on their trigger attempting to shoot the ICE golems in terraria. They wouldn’t be the bad guys
Honest opinion, I don’t think they would ever be the bad guys, only a dead or non-existent Nazi is a good Nazi.
But I guess the unfortunate thing is that ICE would group together and an actual civil war starts (in which ICE likely has the upper hand, as it gets funded by the government and Nazis are more likely to have firearms I guess), which is probably exactly what the Trump Administration wants, I don’t know it’s a pretty bad situation there…
Whixh is why the protests need to be focused on the oligarchs in control, rather than their hired goons.
sorry to break it for you. ICE is conducting an ethnic cleansing against Americans. and shootings Americans in the streets. the civil war has already began
They’re still just practicing for that. There’s time to prepare but not much.
No, they would be fucking heros
Oficials and the media says he had a gun… we don’t see the gun anywhere in this videos… I am not sure if he was really carrying the gun.
The gun was holstered on his body. A man in a tan coat and no (visible) body armor removed it and stepped into the street with it. Less than twonseconds after he had removed it, we hear the first shot.
Alex was licensed and lawfully carrying.
In video of the shooting, after Alex is pepper sprayed and falls to his knees, you can see one of the thugs lift his shirt, revealing his holstered firearm to both him and the shooter. Both see it, and the shooter draws his weapon. Tan coat removes Alex’s gun from it’s holster in full view of the shooter and moves away with it, and then the shooter, knowing that Alex had already been pepper sprayed, physically restrained, and disarmed, murders him by shooting him at close range in the back.
Edit - breakdown of close up video from former military police / DHS Internal Affairs officer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjN73-gn90Q
Republicans are hunting Americans. It’s Republicans vs. America.
It’s neoconfederates come to finish the job because the Civil War never fixed the core issue and just let it sulk until America no longer had a shared reality.
This is 100% the root.
Why would the neoconfederates also win in the north? I would assume that not everything can be attributed to people from the south.
In 2000, for instance, the US Census Bureau found that residential segregation has on average declined since 1980 in the West and South, but less so in the Northeast and Midwest.[116] Indeed, the top ten most segregated cities are in the Rust Belt, where total populations have declined in the last few decades.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_segregation_in_the_United_States
You are basically dismissing a pretty low bar because some other bars that are following suit are not that low. The “People from the South” are not the problem, rather, it is the stranglehold in information warfare that prevents Americans from living in a shared reality that has now been cultivated and ingrained into culture for several generations.
it is the stranglehold in information warfare that prevents Americans from living in a shared reality
So where is the connection to neoconfederates?
Neo-Confederates are groups and individuals who portray the Confederate States of America and its actions during the American Civil War in a positive light.
Confederate and especially Neoconfederate does not mean “people from the south.” Lost causism is everywhere in this country.
They are MAGA. The Republican Party is dead, that was just the larval stage, before it morphed into its final form - MAGA. We should only refer to the Republican Party from a historical or scholarly perspective.
They are ALL MAGA now.
Things I thought I’d never say: I miss the Republicans of the eighties. They were all a mix of absolute cowards, grifters, and idiots, but the new MAGA party that has replaced them manages to consistently be even worse.
Feelings like that are why the Democrats are trying (and failing) to be Republican-lite now.
I think I don’t understand your comment.
Are you suggesting my somewhat sardonic comment that the historically terrible party has managed to become so awful and vile that I “miss” them being just terrible is representative of why Democrats are moving to the right?
That’s the only interpretation I can fathom and I fail to see the logic if I’m correct.
Rose-tinted glasses, I’m afraid. They may claim their hearts may have desired to respect some ideal, but the facts and evidence show that’s absolutely not true. Some useful links:
Exactly this. There have never been any “good conservatives”, they’ve always been like this – now they’ve just gotten more power
Yep we must resist the urge to revisit even recent neocons like Bush II as “good old days conservatives” because they were absolutely monsters and it makes it seem like Democratic opposition at the time was just silly fearmongering. It was not. We are making real estate deals with the country that did 9/11 and we destabilized two other countries for oil and political points, under the guise of 9/11 retribution. That’s like getting coffee with your wife’s rapist after burning down some other guy’s house in anger over it.
The problem is the grifters pushing fear for political support and cash for several decades. People grew up in that environment no knowing it was all a grift.
The lunatics have now become in charge of the aslyum. All those grifters and old people still in charge, fuck em. They made this bed and still haven’t taken responsbiility for it.
It’s the same fucking people. 80 year olds sitting in power right now were in power then, too.
They didn’t wake up this way, they’ve won through incrementalism and can now go mask off.
The difference was that the 80s Republican politicians still loved America. MAGA politicians are all Sociopathic Oligarchs or their flunkies, and they hate America, and ONLY see it as a fat, rich, lazy target to be ruthlessly exploited in every possible way.
80s Republicans were narcissistic patriots, MAGAs are narcissistic and corrupt traitors, rapists, pedophiles, racists, ignorant, incompetent and CRIMINALS.
The difference was that the 80s Republican politicians still loved America.
Sorry but that’s just not true. The heritage foundation has never loved america and has never produced an american-loving republican, only capitalism and capital-loving republicans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_Doctrine#Origin_and_advocates https://www.heritage.org/conservatism/commentary/reagan-and-heritage-unique-partnership
With the arrival of the Reagan administration, The Heritage Foundation and other conservative foreign policy think tanks saw a political opportunity to significantly expand Carter’s Afghanistan policy into a more global “doctrine”, including U.S. support to anti-communist resistance movements in Soviet-allied nations in Africa, Asia, and Latin America. According to political analysts Thomas Bodenheimer and Robert Gould, “it was the Heritage Foundation that translated theory into concrete policy. Heritage targeted nine nations for regime change: Afghanistan, Angola, Cambodia, Ethiopia, Iran, Laos, Libya, Nicaragua, and Vietnam”.
Probably valid, but they still weren’t killing citizens in the streets.
Umm… no. People were killed, white people just didn’t care because the people dying weren’t white and therefore it wasn’t on the news. Republicans were killing citizens on the street in the name of fighting drugs and family values by killing black and brown people with hiv, crack and making abortions illegal.
This is well-known history and honestly to forget it is either a deliberate choice at worse or gross negligence at best.
White people would have cared more, they just didn’t know about it because video cameras were so rare back then. That’s why the Rodney King case was such a big deal. For the first time, we saw how cops really treated black suspects.
A few years later it was driven home during the OJ trial, when we heard about even more systemic abuses by the LAPD, leading to a jury who simply didn’t trust any police testimony due to decades of abuse. White Americans were finally understanding that cops weren’t just ignoring blacks, they were systematically targeting them for abuse.
Then smartphones came along and definitively proved it across the entire country.
Killed by the Klan, but the government helped justify it. Did the same kind of shit they are doing to Renee Good.
ICE is just formally state sponsored Klan. The Venn diagram of cops and Klan approaches a circle at certain points of US history.
Some Dems are in favor of ICE, is the government V Americans. it always was the top vs the bottom, just now law enforcement is executing white people, not just minorities.
Everyone remember to keep getting more people onto Piefed and Lemmy (Voyager for Lemmy) along with Session, Signal, XMPP, Mastodon, Stoat, Pixelfed, etc etc. The more of us on here the better
Yep! Social media is deleting content. Reddit is deleting posts. Tiktok is now under Trump’s finger.
Trying
All good we got this. Whatever person we get on is a huge thing to the movement. Also stay well Buller!
I joined today, so the exposure(reddit comment in my case) definately helps!
Welcome to the movement and Lemmy/Piefed (depending on which you use) Lolidan! Get comfy we in for bumpy ride
Welcome to the free world brother!
Just bear in mind that many Fediverse instances are in Europe and Europe has no free speech culture. EG In Germany, people who upload videos of police are commonly prosecuted for GDPR violations. It violates the fundamental rights of the police officers. When European activists oppose Big Tech in the name of democracy, they want more censorship; more government control.
Oh piss off. We have legislation against hate speech. You know because it led to millions of deaths in our continent. The disgraceful state of your country is a direct consequence of your asinine interpretations about free speech.
I just hate reading missinformation like this.
At public spaces you can take pictures and video as much as you want. But you cant release personal information or violate or ridicule anybody in the picture. And you cant release anything that contains information that might ruin undercover operation, but in that case police must provide a proof that the undercover mission was ongoing and approved at the time.
Private citizen cant be procuted for GDPR violation. Only reqister keeppers ie. the company who collects the data can violate it. Only exception is if private person is creating a database, meaning they have names, addresses, emails, phone numbers or any other personal information like that connected to the photos and in that case its called illegal database, not GDPR violation.
GDPR is not about censorship, its about persons right for anominity and persons right to know what data has been collected from them (Thats strange, allmost like thats two rights EU citizens have, that USA citizens dont. Sounds like EU citizens have… can i say it… more freedom than people in states).
Im going to try to be nice and think you wrote what you did, because if missinformation you have heard, or poor understanding of the law and not because you try to spread lies on purpose.
Awfully high horse you are on up there. Why don’t you get down to reality that privacy protections in GDPR are just a lip service in a world ran by big tech.
Corporations rule and pretending laws are protecting you while they have control is rather ridiculous.
The maximum punishment for GDPR breach is 4% of the companys world wide renevue. I dont know if you understand business but that 4% is shit ton. Its not 4% of gross profit, its from revevue, its 4% of the all the money the that has gone trough the company. So tech bros are taking it seriously. I mean what they are going to do? Start to follow the quidelines or risk losing all the profits they are gettin from worlds second biggest market?
Meta is currently in court for €1,2 billion and so far it does not look like they are getting away from it. Google has also €2,95 billion fine on the table. Lets shelf this conversation and see if they pay up and if they start to follow the law.
What really is ridiculous is bitching about different continents laws while (im guessing you are from states) your own country is spreading its cheecks and asking the big tech to come in.
Oh please, the entire law creates an undue burden on smaller firms while the larger ones skirt the rules. This continues to benefit big tech (and big business) and until Europe pushes them out completely everything you say is nonsense. If GDPR actually changes how these big companies steal and use data I will gladly eat my hat.
Undue burden of what? Keeping their data in order? Ooh the terror?!
By happenstance i was working in one of those smaller businesses when the law first came to be and i was one of the dudes whose job was to make sure we followed the new regulations and it was hardly an ordeal. Now years later the amount of the time i spent monthly doing work with GDPR requests is so negligible, it really did not matter workload wise if the law even was there.
Is it really so hard to imagine things might work differently in somewhere else?
Uh. Hope you like the taste if your hat. The whole marketing indrustry in EU, from online adds to telemarketing has fundamentally changed the way they can and will advertise to, or contact their customers or potential customers.
Data breach notifications have been getting much better. GTPR demands that after finding the breach company has 72 hours time to notify customers effected, if later time there are any proof company has tried to cover databreach they get hit by the fines. By 2025 there had already been over 281 000 data breach notifications. Including notifications from big companies like Google, meta and amazon. Before GDPR those companies had no need to report any of those.
Fortune 500 companies have spended over €7.8 billion to comply with the law. Do you think none of that money has made any changes how they do busines?
But you are right. Its not perfect and big companies keep lobbying against it and there are new hurdles like AI that still needs to be figured out. But saying it has amounted to nothing or trying to belittle its effects is just playing in to the hand of those tech companies.
If it does not work, why would other countries and states like California bother to make their own similiar legistlations?
Compliance costs which you admit to. You can’t fathom that this legislation benefited big business because you don’t understand what is really going on. That is okay.
Believing any policy passed is not favoring big business is willfully ignoring reality at this point. As I stated, until these privacy violating megacorps are removed there is no privacy. The governments are complicit in this information grab as well.
Frankly, this law may have been a good start. So far I am not impressed.
Everything you wrote is factually wrong.
I think you are confused, poor thing. It was your comment that had the facts wrong.
Is this a joke about the EU’s desire to curb misinformation? Like, I’m 90% sure that you can’t be serious.
Please dont boil it down to this. It is perfectly legal to post videos of police in Germany, you just have to obscure the faces of all people in the video that did not consent to it being publicy available. Furthermore, the spoken word has additonal protections in place. Yes, the european data protection legislation can be difficult to navigate, but bear in mind that it focuses on the personal rights of ALL people, even police. However there is still the possibility to publish material unedited if it has cultural or historical significance. Of couse this would go to court, but hey: At least we have courts to settle those matters transparently. KG Berlin – Az.: 2 ORs 31/23 – 121 Ss 130/23 – Urteil vom 30.11.2023
Right. Merely making the recording may already be criminal; not only sharing it. I didn’t want to sound too alarmist. But when we’re ad it. Pixelating the faces means processing personal data which may already be illegal.
What it boils down to is this: If some lawless government goons arrest anyone recording their deeds and seized their phones, no honest, law-abiding judge or police officer would see a problem with that. Anyone live-streaming, just in case, would be guilty of violating fundamental rights in the eyes of all defenders of European values. The government could rely on the technical and organizational infrastructure to enforce GDPR to suppress inconvenient videos without bending the law.
But no problem. Freedom of information is in the constitution. So you just go to court and insist on your right. Of course, a far right government will have packed the highest courts with its people, and so you lose. Well, everyone has rights. Freedom of information isn’t everything. No problem there.
Red keinen Stuss
You pretty much just described what’s happened in America, headquarters for “It can’t happen here.” It can, it did, and it will happen in Europe when someone decides that “fairness” in any law or policy is an excuse to exploit the shit out of it.
Europe has a lot less social resistance to this stuff. You can see it here. Watching the watchmen turns out to be one of the best tools for defending democracy. And still the call is for more censorship. It’s insane.
Did you pick up, like 2 weeks ago, when Italy fined Cloudflare for not censoring hard enough? Italy is literally ruled by a fascist party. They literally present themselves as being in the tradition of Benito Mussolini. No one bats a fucking eye.
Of course, the censorship is about copyright; protecting the Italian media industry. Maybe people here are too young or unpolitical to remember Italian media billionaire Silvio Berlusconi. In the 1990s, he used his media empire to get himself elected prime minister and escape prosecution for corruption. At one point, he used his office and some lies to get an underage prostitute, he’d been fucking at one of his sex parties, released from police custody. That guy was Italy’s longest serving prime minister since WW2. He then was an MEP until 2022.
Italian intellectuals, identified Trump as a Berlusconi-type populist 10 years ago, when Berlusconi was fading out and Trump rising. Maybe something could be learned from that experienced.
So it’s not like Europeans believe that “It can’t happen here.” It is happening all the time. I think the pro-censorship people are simply so privileged that they can’t conceive of the state ever not being on their side. They seem to feel that being harassed or doxed on the net is the worst that could ever happen to them, personally, and they might be right.
You clearly have no legal training and know nothing about EU law or the national legal systems of its members, many which go back to ancient Roman law.
Go back to school, JD.
JD, is that you?
EU have a freedom of expression law and multiple countries also have constitutional freedom of speech, including right to film police
Germany is also rather unique in having laws with opaque interpretations
https://digit.site36.net/2023/01/31/police-violence-in-germany-misuse-of-wiretapping-paragraph/
The so-called activists you are exposed to that are backed by powerful interests do indeed try to get more censorship.
They have plenty of real activists I would add just as an aside, the ones fighting chat control and age checks and other such Trojan horses they are trying to bring inside to rat fuck the internet.
It is just we are fighting organized monied groups as disparate peoples, so the organized efforts to id every ip and account in europe with id and likeness and run it all through ai threat detection owned by palantir types to make secret social scores that will secretly determine everything from your job prospects, police attention, loans, to prices charged and even what info search engines show you, that all seems like activist groups because we have at most banded into public interest groups fighting rearguard and woeking disparatly off of guerilla reporters’ scoops,while they have a well funded and orchestrated plan using groups like protecct the children with studies they commission and lawmakers they leased and media they are in league with or indeed own.
It is tech behind a lot of it. Even opposing big tech, is oftentimes schemes to surrender to big tech, as is chatcontrol and age checks.
Derp
Ten of them for every one of us, that’s all I’m saying.
Don’t you mean 10 of us for 1 of them??
I don’t think they’re talking about the comparative sizes of the groups.
Or body mass
I’m hoping that one day soon the remaining good Americans will realise that ICE pigs have names and addresses too
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there are more citizens than terrorists. the innocents have the numbers to protect themselves, but it requires coordinationYou’re replying to a person that appreciates that. They are questioning why Op said ten of THEM to everyone one of us which makes no sense.
It’s ridiculous that I have to explain this but they’re saying that ten ICE agents should be killed in retaliation for every person they murder.
Ooo ooo, jesus christ, I’d not even considered that. Thank you so much for the clarifying comment - it’s not something that I’d ever rationally think
Oh it makes sense. Let me rephrase it. 10 of them for every one of us (in Minecraft)
well damn, my brain just autocorrected the sentence lol
Alex Pretti was murdered.
Say it with me. This was no “shooting.”
And it’s going to keep happening again and again.
I think Executed would be the correct term. The EXECUTED him while several agents held him down.
Alex Pretti was murdered by ICE
Renee Macklin Good was murdered by ICE
A lot more than those people…ICE Deaths Memorial https://icefalltracker.com/
Since justice is dead, it’s time to get the shooters’ names out there. We all saw with our own eyes what happened.
Alex Pretti was murdered by ICE
Renee Macklin Good was murdered by ICE
Did you copy/paste the other person…?
Edit: why was this downvoted? It’s weird to copy/paste the exact same comment and it seemed like bot behavior to me.
Yes.
Murderers should get murdered.
TheN tHe NuMbEr Of KilLeRs WiLl sTaY tHe SaMe.
that if you only kill one ICE golem in terraria. the following ICE golems are freebies
It’s not murder if a murderer gets killed. That’s referred to as an execution specifically and justice more broadly
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