The footage of the fatal shooting of Alex Jeffrey Pretti, said one journalist, “shows that the final act of his life was trying to help a woman who was being physically assaulted by the masked agents who would then kill him.”
In the original video of the shooting of a man in Minneapolis, identified by the Minneapolis Star Tribune at 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a woman in a pink coat was seen in the background filming the incident with her phone.
Drop Site News obtained footage that appeared “to come from the direction of the woman in pink filming from the sidewalk” and showed the shooting at a closer distance than the footage taken from inside Glam Doll Donuts.
In the video, the shooting victim, dressed in a brown coat and pants, is seen filming a federal agent with his phone. He’s then seen guiding another person toward the sidewalk as the agent forcefully shoves a third person to the ground.
Welp there’s new footage showing him in violent confrontation with ICE days prior. Doesn’t mean he deserved to get shot of course but it means he intentionally put himself in that situation which changes up the narrative around the guy.
When a guy gets shot in the head, while pinned down to the ground, it is especially important to censor the “fuck”.
ICE murdered that man.
From here we have two paths:
One: Civility is eventually restored to government and these people are tried and convicted for their crimes.
Two: All out civil war.
We will not let ICE, Trump or any of these Nazis complete their agenda.
One: Civility is eventually restored to government and these people are tried and convicted for their crimes.
Respectfully, that’s an outcome, not a path to get there.
The MAGA shitheads won’t just give up and let themselves be prosecuted. They won’t stop appointing judges, they won’t stop cheating on elections, they won’t stop manipulating media, and they won’t stop harassing, intimidating, and killing their opposition until someone makes them.
There’s a third option: people don’t resist and the regime does whatever it wants.
So far we’ve chosen that option.
I want to believe that the killing of Good and Pretti will be a turning point…but I’m a middle aged American who has developed some cynicism about my fellow countrymen…
The third option is what I expect from years of “American exceptionalism” brainwashing.
Ironically that’s how things went so wrong in Russia, too.
There’s a third option: people don’t resist and
the regime does whatever it wants.we fight them in the courtGlad I could fix that for you.
Military coup. The only way a civil war is successful is if the military are on the side of the people. The most important of which would be the USN and USAF Strategic Forces. A prolonged ground war is only won by sea, air, and nuclear forces. More specifically nuclear forces in the hands of said military who will NOT use them on our own land.
It will present a serious challenge with all the Pentagon purges. But the majority of Flag and Line officers are from West Point, Annapolis, and Maxwell. It’s unlikely most side with Trump (for now). The real trick will hinge on the NCOs, as the US Military is predominantly a middle-out force, and senior NCOs hold the bulk of our service members’ respect. What they decide to do in the majority will dictate the outcome of a civil war. One NG commander already stated publicly he will order his soldiers to protect protesters from ICE agents. There is a small chance.
Ideally the next time President Trump boards Marine 1 he’s taken into custody at a military base with a large Delta, Rangers, or NG presence to subdue USSS agents. With a Federal Judge, Vance, Speaker Johnson, and Grassley in tow. Invoke 25 or Martial Law, and go down the line of succession until someone takes the oath. This is highly unlikely though. A full impeachment is more likely, but a lot of people will need to for die before it will happen.
It’s either that or The Man in The High Castle. The American Fourth Reich.
Civility is eventually restored to government and these people are tried and convicted for their crimes.
For that you need some power. Effectively in other countries like Ukraine, the economic nobility (i.e billionaires) comes to the rescue. The problem is that it seems that the economic nobility has built a golem they no longer control but are doubling down on controlling it.
Two: All out civil war.
In this case you also need some power backing it. Unless you are Cuba or some shithole like the Russian Empire in 1917.
My marvel influenced child, the only way the society pushes back with these cards is internal sabotage.
Something I was just made aware of: after shooting and killing Alex Pretti, ICE officers then stood back and shot him 5 more times.
Alex Pretti was murdered.
Say it with me. This was no “shooting.”
And it’s going to keep happening again and again.
Alex Pretti was murdered by ICE
Renee Macklin Good was murdered by ICE
A lot more than those people…ICE Deaths Memorial https://icefalltracker.com/
Since justice is dead, it’s time to get the shooters’ names out there. We all saw with our own eyes what happened.
Alex Pretti was murdered by ICE
Renee Macklin Good was murdered by ICE
Did you copy/paste the other person…?
Edit: why was this downvoted? It’s weird to copy/paste the exact same comment and it seemed like bot behavior to me.
Yes.
I think Executed would be the correct term. The EXECUTED him while several agents held him down.
I had this discussion about the usage of “murder” vs “execution” a couple of months ago with some guy on lemmy.
To people who are fond of judicial sanctified vengance killings aka capital punishment, the term “execution” has a positive connotation. To you and me, calling this cold blooded murder “execution” enhances the abhorrence. To them, it expresses justification.
Murderers should get murdered.
It’s not murder if a murderer gets killed. That’s referred to as an execution specifically and justice more broadly
TheN tHe NuMbEr Of KilLeRs WiLl sTaY tHe SaMe.
that if you only kill one ICE golem in terraria. the following ICE golems are freebies
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This is just straight up murder. He shot man in the back a dozen times with no threat to his safety at all, this is AFTER they gang beat him to the ground for no reason. This is unacceptable.
Best video I’ve seen:
https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qm2vi0/heres_your_proof_with_the_moment_of_truth_isolated/
Trump’s Taliban doing summary street executions now.
Thugs checklist:
- Pepper spray
- Push down on ground
- Feral pack pile on
- Run off with the gun they stole
- Empty clips into prone body
5 happened before 4
Its a minor detail, but really highlights the heinous nature of what happened here. They disarmed him before executing him.
Honestly, i think its a pretty major detail. They disarmed him and then shot him 10 times. Its what changes this from murder to execution. The man was not a threat the whole time but after they took his only means of being a threat they then killed him and are claiming he was a threat. They neutered their own defence. If he still had the gun when they shot him they would have an easier time lying about what happened.
The 8 year Border Patrol veteran who shot him seemed to see the gun and unholstered his own, then the moment Alex’s gun was taken away he started shooting. It’s like he saw the justification and realized he could execute him and waited to be safe, at no point is the main murderer in any danger or engaged directly with Alex, he was watching from above until he started shooting.
Yep. Fixed.
Doesn’t matter to the MAGAts, they will just disobey the evidence of their eyes, as the party tells them.
It’s … predictable. The MAGA on my FB feed are all quiet. Not one single peep. They’ll ignore it until they’re given some talking points. Or they’ll just never mention it.
“I don’t read propaganda” was one of the last things my mother said to me before we broke off communication for good. I don’t associate with nazis or their supporters. And of course the irony is lost on her, that propaganda is the ONLY thing she consumes.
I’m sorry you had to lose your mother to this bullshit.
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This will become the next election-fraud-style loyalty test. If you state publicly that you don’t see manslaughter in the video, you’ve proven your loyalty to the great leader.
Plenty of the right leaning people I talk to say he was reaching for his gun. I can’t see it.
My dad refuses to see or hear any evidence that may break his mental gymnasts back. He actually behaves like a toddler, by screaming and flailing to avoid some bitter medicine. I mean literally squeezing his eyes closed, yelling and flailing his arms when I try to show him what he has done
He saved that woman’s life, but I cannot imagine how she feels right now. I would be sick with survivor’s guilt.
The beacon of truth : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alex_Pretti
“What the f*ck did you do?”
NEEDS to be embraced as a slogan with the same passion as “Let’s Go Brandon”
It’s the perfect Anti-ICE, Anti-Trump, Anti-Capitalist message.
It calls back to the decades of intelligent well educated Americans saying this was an inevitability given the obvious path we’ve been on.
The very minute I read some synopsis on a news alert on my phone and saw that it was claimed that “he had a gun” I disbelieved that.
Even if he had a gun and he’s on the ground and tried to get up? That justifies shooting “roughly 10” times?
He did have a gun.
He was being a responsible citizen, exercising his 2nd Amendment rights with a holstered weapon, in compliance with Minnesota law.
Gestapo thugs tackled and beat him, unholstered and removed the firearm from his side, and only then did they unload 9 bullets into him as he laid unarmed and beaten on the street.
But as you’ll see, and as anyone who’s ever paid attention to the 2A fascist assholes will know, they suddenly become hyper anti-gun the moment its someone they don’t like exercising their rights.
That sure sounds like something the NRA should have an opinion about
The NRA exists solely for the profit of firearms manufacturers.
This won’t hinder their sales,so the NRA won’t care.
The NRA is an embezzlement scam. They don’t care about gun rights OR gun manufacturers
It might even increase them.
I hope innocent people start arming themselves. It’s fucking time for the 2A to kick in
I live in MPLS and I just passed my qualification for a permit to carry yesterday. Never thought I’d be the type of person to learn about and practice firearms but now that the future is so uncertain and tumultuous I figure it’s better to be educated and practiced just-in-case.
Good! Education and practice are key! More people need to follow your example!
Their sales will actually go up as more people on either side arm themselves. The rich get richer, the machine of death keeps rolling.
Lol, if that were true, they should be shouting from the rooftops because after this, people will be scrambling to get guns when an occupying private military starts executing civilians on the street.
The NRA started the anti-gun movement in California alongside Reagan. In response to the Black Panthers carrying while copwatching as they did similar shit to the Black neighborhoods in the 1960s.
The NRA will back it no problem. They have before.
The NRA protects cops more than they protect guns.
Idk about the NRA, but this is the GOAs response.
While I disagree with their statement about immigration, I gotta at least give them credit for not being totally two-faced.
That statement some real “both sides” energy bullshit. The only ones obliged to behave like professionals here are the ones representing the US government on official duty. The rest are obliged to do exactly what they are doing. Keep watching, keep filming, keep supporting each other, and keep showing the world all of it.
It would have been great if not for that “The Left is clearly the antagonist here!1111!111” part
I’ve seen those headlines too. It’s seems like they are trying to insinuate that it actually is criminal in some respect for citizens to carry guns in the US. At least that’s the vibe I’m getting from them making a big deal about that detail.
Kristi Noem lying on TV this very moment about Alex Pretti and painting him as terrorist. And then claims the investigation will be performed. It seems to me they performed investigation 5 seconds after they put like 15 rounds into Alex. This shit needs Nuremberg type trials for entire current USA administration starting with Trump, all his hyenas and all the agents that murdered Alex and Renee. USA is a lawless wild west. They aren’t enforcing laws, they are playing Judge Dredd and interpret the laws pretty much randomly the way they feel, usually ending with innocent people dying. And then they continue lying about it. This is fucked.
Not to be overly Comic-book-guy but:
Judge Dredd is never portrayed killing someone for his own gratification in 2000AD. He isn’t racist, or to my knowledge, even a classist.
Yes, he is a ‘judge’ in an ultra violent society that devolves execution, due process and investigation to the officer on the beat.
But no one is above the law as far as he concerned not even the judiciary. There probably isn’t a president of the US that he wouldn’t have arrested for their crimes, and quite a few he’d execute for their crimes against humanity. Trump wouldn’t have made it to this millennium.
These ICE thugs are just cowardly fascist scum. Law is just a weapon of suppression to them. For Judge Dredd the law was sacred and the only thing preventing humanity from eating itself in his post apocalyptic future hellscape.
Him and The Punisher (who law enforcement tend to idolize) are people we shouldn’t wish for, but maybe people like them are sometimes required. When the justice system fails, who holds people accountable? If no one, then there’s nothing stopping evil people from doing whatever they want.
We don’t want state officials working for vigilante justice, but occasionally in history someone does need to.
Which goes to show that one of the mightiest weapons against the oligarchs turning the people against each other is the teaching of critical thinking in schools.
That’s why this cultural virus attacks teachers and coups education boards. The pay off is these automatons believing that there is a direct mirror between the egoless Dredd having the ultimate power to end a criminal’s life within the boundaries of a harsh but ultimately unprejudiced set of laws and their own prejudicial bloodthirsty fascism that constantly corrupts the law to suit their ingroup and individual needs.
They shot him many times so he couldn’t testify later against them. 1 shot, then a bunch for the kill.
public paramilitary execution.
Everyone remember to keep getting more people onto Piefed and Lemmy (Voyager for Lemmy) along with Session, Signal, XMPP, Mastodon, Stoat, Pixelfed, etc etc. The more of us on here the better
Yep! Social media is deleting content. Reddit is deleting posts. Tiktok is now under Trump’s finger.
Trying
All good we got this. Whatever person we get on is a huge thing to the movement. Also stay well Buller!
I joined today, so the exposure(reddit comment in my case) definately helps!
Welcome to the movement and Lemmy/Piefed (depending on which you use) Lolidan! Get comfy we in for bumpy ride
Welcome to the free world brother!
Just bear in mind that many Fediverse instances are in Europe and Europe has no free speech culture. EG In Germany, people who upload videos of police are commonly prosecuted for GDPR violations. It violates the fundamental rights of the police officers. When European activists oppose Big Tech in the name of democracy, they want more censorship; more government control.
Oh piss off. We have legislation against hate speech. You know because it led to millions of deaths in our continent. The disgraceful state of your country is a direct consequence of your asinine interpretations about free speech.
Please dont boil it down to this. It is perfectly legal to post videos of police in Germany, you just have to obscure the faces of all people in the video that did not consent to it being publicy available. Furthermore, the spoken word has additonal protections in place. Yes, the european data protection legislation can be difficult to navigate, but bear in mind that it focuses on the personal rights of ALL people, even police. However there is still the possibility to publish material unedited if it has cultural or historical significance. Of couse this would go to court, but hey: At least we have courts to settle those matters transparently. KG Berlin – Az.: 2 ORs 31/23 – 121 Ss 130/23 – Urteil vom 30.11.2023
Right. Merely making the recording may already be criminal; not only sharing it. I didn’t want to sound too alarmist. But when we’re ad it. Pixelating the faces means processing personal data which may already be illegal.
What it boils down to is this: If some lawless government goons arrest anyone recording their deeds and seized their phones, no honest, law-abiding judge or police officer would see a problem with that. Anyone live-streaming, just in case, would be guilty of violating fundamental rights in the eyes of all defenders of European values. The government could rely on the technical and organizational infrastructure to enforce GDPR to suppress inconvenient videos without bending the law.
But no problem. Freedom of information is in the constitution. So you just go to court and insist on your right. Of course, a far right government will have packed the highest courts with its people, and so you lose. Well, everyone has rights. Freedom of information isn’t everything. No problem there.
You pretty much just described what’s happened in America, headquarters for “It can’t happen here.” It can, it did, and it will happen in Europe when someone decides that “fairness” in any law or policy is an excuse to exploit the shit out of it.
Europe has a lot less social resistance to this stuff. You can see it here. Watching the watchmen turns out to be one of the best tools for defending democracy. And still the call is for more censorship. It’s insane.
Did you pick up, like 2 weeks ago, when Italy fined Cloudflare for not censoring hard enough? Italy is literally ruled by a fascist party. They literally present themselves as being in the tradition of Benito Mussolini. No one bats a fucking eye.
Of course, the censorship is about copyright; protecting the Italian media industry. Maybe people here are too young or unpolitical to remember Italian media billionaire Silvio Berlusconi. In the 1990s, he used his media empire to get himself elected prime minister and escape prosecution for corruption. At one point, he used his office and some lies to get an underage prostitute, he’d been fucking at one of his sex parties, released from police custody. That guy was Italy’s longest serving prime minister since WW2. He then was an MEP until 2022.
Italian intellectuals, identified Trump as a Berlusconi-type populist 10 years ago, when Berlusconi was fading out and Trump rising. Maybe something could be learned from that experienced.
So it’s not like Europeans believe that “It can’t happen here.” It is happening all the time. I think the pro-censorship people are simply so privileged that they can’t conceive of the state ever not being on their side. They seem to feel that being harassed or doxed on the net is the worst that could ever happen to them, personally, and they might be right.
You clearly have no legal training and know nothing about EU law or the national legal systems of its members, many which go back to ancient Roman law.
Go back to school, JD.
Red keinen Stuss
JD, is that you?
EU have a freedom of expression law and multiple countries also have constitutional freedom of speech, including right to film police
Germany is also rather unique in having laws with opaque interpretations
https://digit.site36.net/2023/01/31/police-violence-in-germany-misuse-of-wiretapping-paragraph/
I just hate reading missinformation like this.
At public spaces you can take pictures and video as much as you want. But you cant release personal information or violate or ridicule anybody in the picture. And you cant release anything that contains information that might ruin undercover operation, but in that case police must provide a proof that the undercover mission was ongoing and approved at the time.
Private citizen cant be procuted for GDPR violation. Only reqister keeppers ie. the company who collects the data can violate it. Only exception is if private person is creating a database, meaning they have names, addresses, emails, phone numbers or any other personal information like that connected to the photos and in that case its called illegal database, not GDPR violation.
GDPR is not about censorship, its about persons right for anominity and persons right to know what data has been collected from them (Thats strange, allmost like thats two rights EU citizens have, that USA citizens dont. Sounds like EU citizens have… can i say it… more freedom than people in states).
Im going to try to be nice and think you wrote what you did, because if missinformation you have heard, or poor understanding of the law and not because you try to spread lies on purpose.
Awfully high horse you are on up there. Why don’t you get down to reality that privacy protections in GDPR are just a lip service in a world ran by big tech.
Corporations rule and pretending laws are protecting you while they have control is rather ridiculous.
The maximum punishment for GDPR breach is 4% of the companys world wide renevue. I dont know if you understand business but that 4% is shit ton. Its not 4% of gross profit, its from revevue, its 4% of the all the money the that has gone trough the company. So tech bros are taking it seriously. I mean what they are going to do? Start to follow the quidelines or risk losing all the profits they are gettin from worlds second biggest market?
Meta is currently in court for €1,2 billion and so far it does not look like they are getting away from it. Google has also €2,95 billion fine on the table. Lets shelf this conversation and see if they pay up and if they start to follow the law.
What really is ridiculous is bitching about different continents laws while (im guessing you are from states) your own country is spreading its cheecks and asking the big tech to come in.
Oh please, the entire law creates an undue burden on smaller firms while the larger ones skirt the rules. This continues to benefit big tech (and big business) and until Europe pushes them out completely everything you say is nonsense. If GDPR actually changes how these big companies steal and use data I will gladly eat my hat.
Undue burden of what? Keeping their data in order? Ooh the terror?!
By happenstance i was working in one of those smaller businesses when the law first came to be and i was one of the dudes whose job was to make sure we followed the new regulations and it was hardly an ordeal. Now years later the amount of the time i spent monthly doing work with GDPR requests is so negligible, it really did not matter workload wise if the law even was there.
Is it really so hard to imagine things might work differently in somewhere else?
Uh. Hope you like the taste if your hat. The whole marketing indrustry in EU, from online adds to telemarketing has fundamentally changed the way they can and will advertise to, or contact their customers or potential customers.
Data breach notifications have been getting much better. GTPR demands that after finding the breach company has 72 hours time to notify customers effected, if later time there are any proof company has tried to cover databreach they get hit by the fines. By 2025 there had already been over 281 000 data breach notifications. Including notifications from big companies like Google, meta and amazon. Before GDPR those companies had no need to report any of those.
Fortune 500 companies have spended over €7.8 billion to comply with the law. Do you think none of that money has made any changes how they do busines?
But you are right. Its not perfect and big companies keep lobbying against it and there are new hurdles like AI that still needs to be figured out. But saying it has amounted to nothing or trying to belittle its effects is just playing in to the hand of those tech companies.
If it does not work, why would other countries and states like California bother to make their own similiar legistlations?
Compliance costs which you admit to. You can’t fathom that this legislation benefited big business because you don’t understand what is really going on. That is okay.
Believing any policy passed is not favoring big business is willfully ignoring reality at this point. As I stated, until these privacy violating megacorps are removed there is no privacy. The governments are complicit in this information grab as well.
Frankly, this law may have been a good start. So far I am not impressed.
Everything you wrote is factually wrong.
I think you are confused, poor thing. It was your comment that had the facts wrong.
Is this a joke about the EU’s desire to curb misinformation? Like, I’m 90% sure that you can’t be serious.
The so-called activists you are exposed to that are backed by powerful interests do indeed try to get more censorship.
They have plenty of real activists I would add just as an aside, the ones fighting chat control and age checks and other such Trojan horses they are trying to bring inside to rat fuck the internet.
It is just we are fighting organized monied groups as disparate peoples, so the organized efforts to id every ip and account in europe with id and likeness and run it all through ai threat detection owned by palantir types to make secret social scores that will secretly determine everything from your job prospects, police attention, loans, to prices charged and even what info search engines show you, that all seems like activist groups because we have at most banded into public interest groups fighting rearguard and woeking disparatly off of guerilla reporters’ scoops,while they have a well funded and orchestrated plan using groups like protecct the children with studies they commission and lawmakers they leased and media they are in league with or indeed own.
It is tech behind a lot of it. Even opposing big tech, is oftentimes schemes to surrender to big tech, as is chatcontrol and age checks.
Derp
We need to see the video he was making, you know, the one to hold the ICE agents accountable, the one they killed him for
We never will see that one. The ICEholes will have taken it as “evidence” so they can destroy it.
If his icloud or google account can be accessed then it is likely the video exists still. I doubt those agents were smart enough to realise this and likely destroyed the phone thinking that would do it.
Can apple or google access your photos and videos?
Yes they can and do access your photos and videos. The claim they need this profoundly invasive business practice to scan your media for CSAM to “protect the children.”
Yes they can but they’ll only do it when they’re sucking up to federal law enforcement
